Meaning of trinity

[marb]

What is the meaning of trinity in Christianity?

[marb]

How can trinity be explained using this text:

Genesis 1

The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.
31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

[wil]

Originally Posted by marb

How can trinity be explained using this text:

I don't believe I've seen trinity explained utilizing that text. Trinity is most often explained utilizing New Testament scripture and some Old Testament references.

[BlaznFattyz]

how we may have a relationship with god.

[Seeker_of_truth]

Originally Posted by marb

What is the meaning of trinity in Christianity?

Here is a Baha'i explanation of the trinity.

Abdu'l-Baha answers the following question:

Question. -- What is the meaning of the Trinity, of the Three Persons in One?

Answer. -- The Divine Reality, which is purified and sanctified from the understanding of human beings and which can never be imagined by the people of wisdom and of intelligence, is exempt from all conception. That Lordly Reality admits of no division; for division and multiplicity are properties of creatures which are contingent existences, and not accidents which happen to the self-existent.

The Divine Reality is sanctified from singleness, then how much more from plurality. The descent of that Lordly Reality into conditions and degrees would be equivalent to imperfection and contrary to perfection, and is, therefore, absolutely impossible. It perpetually has been, and is, in the exaltation of holiness and sanctity. All that is mentioned of the Manifestations and Dawning-places of God signifies the divine reflection, and not a descent into the conditions of existence.

God is pure perfection, and creatures are but imperfections. For God to descend into the conditions of existence would be the greatest of imperfections; on the contrary, His manifestation, His appearance, His rising are like the reflection of the sun in a clear, pure, polished mirror. All the creatures are evident signs of God, like the earthly beings upon all of which the rays of the sun shine. But upon the plains, the mountains, the trees and fruits, only a portion of the light shines, through which they become visible, and are reared, and attain to the object of their existence, while the Perfect Man is in the condition of a clear mirror in which the Sun of Reality becomes visible and manifest with all its qualities and perfections. So the Reality of Christ was a clear and polished mirror of the greatest purity and fineness. The Sun of Reality, the Essence of Divinity, reflected itself in this mirror and manifested its light and heat in it; but from the exaltation of its holiness, and the heaven of its sanctity, the Sun did not descend to dwell and abide in the mirror. No, it continues to subsist in its exaltation and sublimity, while appearing and becoming manifest in the mirror in beauty and perfection.


Now if we say that we have seen the Sun in two mirrors -- one the Christ and one the Holy Spirit -- that is to say, that we have seen three Suns, one in heaven and the two others on the earth, we speak truly. And if we say that there is one Sun, and it is pure singleness, and has no partner and equal, we again speak truly.

The epitome of the discourse is that the Reality of Christ was a clear mirror, and the Sun of Reality -- that is to say, the Essence of Oneness, with its infinite perfections and attributes -- became visible in the mirror. The meaning is not that the Sun, which is the Essence of the Divinity, became divided and multiplied -- for the Sun is one -- but it appeared in the mirror. This is why Christ said, "The Father is in the Son," meaning that the Sun is visible and manifest in this mirror.

The Holy Spirit is the Bounty of God which becomes visible and evident in the Reality of Christ. The Sonship station is the heart of Christ, and the Holy Spirit is the station of the spirit of Christ. Hence it has become certain and proved that the Essence of Divinity is absolutely unique and has no equal, no likeness, no equivalent.

This is the signification of the Three Persons of the Trinity. If it were otherwise, the foundations of the Religion of God would rest upon an illogical proposition which the mind could never conceive, and how can the mind be forced to believe a thing which it cannot conceive? A thing cannot be grasped by the intelligence except when it is clothed in an intelligible form; otherwise, it is but an effort of the imagination.

It has now become clear, from this explanation, what is the meaning of the Three Persons of the Trinity. The Oneness of God is also proved.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 112)

[BlaznFattyz]

since this is a christian forum i will explain further.
unlike the bahai religion or other religions of the world, christianity is a personal relationship with god the father thru his son and his spirit, all being the one true living god that allows man to be forgiven of sins, born again, and saved thru faith.

[marb]

Is understanding of trinity "seen" in the text from post 2?

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[pattimax]

Originally Posted by marb

Is understanding of trinity "seen" in the text from post 2?

(it was added later, because it needed an approval of moderator)

It truly depends on your mind-set and how you are seeing it. I can "see" the trinity in Genesis 1 because I have faith. Explanations of the trinity are always lacking because it is beyond words.

[Seeker_of_truth]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

...is a personal relationship with god the father thru his son and his spirit, all being the one true living god that allows man to be forgiven of sins, born again, and saved thru faith.

You good sir, just described the Baha'i Faith.

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by Seeker_of_truth

You good sir, just described the Baha'i Faith.

Yes, but isn't the Baha'i Faith described by many ways?

[BlaznFattyz]

Originally Posted by Seeker_of_truth

You good sir, just described the Baha'i Faith.

good sir, i dont think so.

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

good sir, i dont think so.

I am reading up on Baha'i. It says Jesus death did not attain salvation. At best, it was an example of self-sacrifice. Nor did Jesus rise from the dead. "Resurrection " is simply a metaphorical way of saying that Jesus' teachings and cause found "new life" in the disciples minds after three days of troublesome doubting.

You are not saved by faith, you are saved by obedience.

[mee]

ok then , according to the bible there is no trinity in true christianity. but over the centuries many manmade doctrines have been invented and then claimed that they are bible teachings ,when they are not bible teachings at all. and many have been misled by so called religious leaders , because these religious teachers have taught manmade doctrines and not pure bible teaching at all. so the meaning of the trinity is not a bible teaching so it should not be a concern to true christians.

[BlaznFattyz]

Originally Posted by mee

ok then , according to the bible there is no trinity in true christianity.

according to the bible god reveals himself in three persons, thats why there are christians who believe it and go around the world spreading the gospel, and there are jw's that deny the divinity of jesus christ.

[mee]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

according to the bible god reveals himself in three persons, thats why there are christians who believe it and go around the world spreading the gospel, and there are jw's that deny the divinity of jesus christ.

bible prophecy is a great thing to behold , the preaching of the goodnews matthew 24;14 on a global scale , Jesus is now a reigning king in the heavenly kingdom goverment and that is goodnews indeed . daniel 2;44 daniel 7;13-14 yes bible prophecy always comes true . true bible teachings are a wonderful thing , no wonder it is being made known in all nations and islands of the sea revelation 7;9-10 i am waving my symbolic palm branch to welcome this newly enthroned king Jesus christ . this is wear our focus should be , not on a manmade doctrine of men such as the trinity teaching