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Old 07-15-2005, 06:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

Hi, Peace to All--

I have been gone for a few days out of necessity. I came here looking to learn and maybe contribute something. I liked CR so much that when I had a break, I took it with me.

I don't need it--I just like it.

In reality, it is an experiment--one I was willing to be a part of. To be honest with everyone, I am wondering if I am still willing.

You see, I know what I believe--the "deal" is, I am willing to speak together with others of every faith. I am looking for what I saw in the beginning, when I first joined CR. An unbiased, well-moderated discussion.

I do not know if this is still what CR is.

Please, someone, convince me?

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Old 07-15-2005, 06:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

Hi InLove,

Only time for a short reply. I'm sad to hear that you feel this way. I hope this impression is just temporary. Possible? I appreciate your voice in the forums and would hate for you to leave unneccesarily.

I don't think you will ever find an unbiased discussion, everyone here is giving the point of view. Sometimes a thread will lean one way or another. If it gets too bad the moderators will try to redirect or shut it down if that fails. If you feel personally attacked in a thread please contact the moderators and let them know. That should not happen.

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Old 07-15-2005, 08:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

it goes up & down like that. gets out of hand once in awhile but not for long.

i still see everyone comparing beliefs.
is it me? i hope not.

i guess with 6 billion beliefs in the world, that would leave us with 2 billion different christian beliefs to go thru.
oh man! i just dont think i can do it.

i dont think i belong here either, but they keep putting up with me so i guess i keep coming back for more.
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Old 07-15-2005, 09:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

InLove,

Breaks my heart to hear you say that.

I know Ive been a bit of a pain in the [insert body part here] recently, Ive been writing a lot more apology pms than usual. Hope I havent been too irritating.

If it makes you feel any better Ive decided to stay completely out of the monotheism forums from now on. I tend to upset more people there than anywhere else for some reason.

But please stay! ! !

You always make me stop and laugh at my own pseudo-righteous indignation, if you go I'll be absolutely unbearable!
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Old 07-15-2005, 12:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

Kindest Regards, InLove!
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You see, I know what I believe--the "deal" is, I am willing to speak together with others of every faith. I am looking for what I saw in the beginning, when I first joined CR. An unbiased, well-moderated discussion.

I do not know if this is still what CR is
I think of CR as growing, so change is inevitable. Discussions would get stagnant after a while otherwise. So yes, the conversations do ebb and flow, depending on the subject and the contributors. Bias will always be present, when any one person gives their point of view. So I do not have a problem with bias, as long as it is done with respect. If everyone here agreed on everything, I would get really bored really quick. Sometimes all it takes is a "little" disagreement to get the old adrenaline flowing...
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

Greetings all,

InLove called me and wanted me to let you all know that she is sorry she got so frustrated. The computer she was on suddenly began to fritz out and then apparently died. She did however get Luna's message and was trying to respond to her and Q. She just wanted me to let you all know she apologizes.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Kindest Regards, InLove!

I think of CR as growing, so change is inevitable. Discussions would get stagnant after a while otherwise. So yes, the conversations do ebb and flow, depending on the subject and the contributors. Bias will always be present, when any one person gives their point of view. So I do not have a problem with bias, as long as it is done with respect. If everyone here agreed on everything, I would get really bored really quick. Sometimes all it takes is a "little" disagreement to get the old adrenaline flowing...
I have not been here long. So, perhaps I"m not aware InLove of the old CR you'e comparing this to. I haven't seen many personal attacks at this forum and those should not happen anytime. There have been attacks on views but like juantoo said without that spice things could go stale. Even at the large Buddhist forum I frequent it's not uniformity of opinion thakfully. Not always respectful surprisingly either with some of them shown the door. But I find this to be a pretty thought-provoking forum with a minmum of nastiness & good moderation. Not sure what concerns you InLove, but I second it-would hate to see you go. Earl
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Old 07-15-2005, 06:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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...if you go I'll be absolutely unbearable!
See, we need you InLove!

Just joking with you ATF--I enjoy your voice around the boards as well. You also ask some good questions.

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Old 07-15-2005, 06:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi, and Peace, Everyone--

(Thanks, JH, for posting my message.)

I am so sorry and rather embarassed. I need to stay off here when I am feeling frustrated. I wish there was some kind of contraption out there that would take my pulse or something before my keyboard would unlock! Thanks for the pm's ATF and luna. ATF, sorry I took things the wrong way. And no, Bandit--it isn't you, dear. As a matter of fact, it is no one on this thread so far.

Anyway, what a time for my monitor to go completely out--right in the middle of all that. Guess I was logged in all night, since I could not log out! But I fixed this thing, and the screen is no longer pink, and now I can see the new emoticons--hey, they really are cute! And the grin is green and not scary! Yay! Hey wait a minute--it isn't a grin is it? It says "talking". Hmmmm.

You know what? I promise not to be so sensitive in the future. I came here to learn, and so I will learn this, too.

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Old 07-15-2005, 10:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

hi in love

glad to hear you will be staying.
a lot of us are in here because we are unsure....if we were all unsure we wouldn't be much help to each other would we? we need some people in here who know what they believe and why to help provide food for thought for the rest of us....and personally i have never been offended by your "knowing what you believe".....there is a difference between knowing what you believe and being arrogant about it and forcing it on others....and i have never found you to be guilty of that. we need people like you in here to express your beliefs....that is helpful to others....in a polite and friendly and inoffensive manner. i don't know what has upset you, but i hope it's alright now as i have seen many messages here encouraging you to stay. add mine to the list. please stay
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Old 07-16-2005, 01:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

A more recent disturbance should now be settled...
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Old 07-16-2005, 02:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

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Hi, and Peace, Everyone--... I am so sorry and rather embarassed. I need to stay off here when I am feeling frustrated. I wish there was some kind of contraption out there that would take my pulse or something before my keyboard would unlock! ...You know what? I promise not to be so sensitive in the future. I came here to learn, and so I will learn this, too.

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Old 07-16-2005, 06:44 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hi, Peace to All--

I have been gone for a few days out of necessity. I came here looking to learn and maybe contribute something. I liked CR so much that when I had a break, I took it with me.

I don't need it--I just like it.

In reality, it is an experiment--one I was willing to be a part of. To be honest with everyone, I am wondering if I am still willing.

You see, I know what I believe--the "deal" is, I am willing to speak together with others of every faith. I am looking for what I saw in the beginning, when I first joined CR. An unbiased, well-moderated discussion.

I do not know if this is still what CR is.

Please, someone, convince me?

InPeace,
InLove
Till you die you faith will be tested, you will see many different approaches of reaching the divine, you dont have to choose one but respect. Tell yours you will be told. Learn and you will be taught.
I am writing in a weird manner again.
Actually what is it that bothers you? You think your belief is shaking when you debate about it? the values, way of seeing the world? Or some particular personnas deflowering your garden?
Inlove just close your eyes and feel the love, you will smile )

"Come, who ever you are, come"
If we were big hearted as the voice giver of these words, all would be living in the great harmony of our Sender. So, come, don't go...
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hi, Peace to All Here--

Thanks again for the encouragement, everyone...

'Twas I who got out-of-hand. No one else. I really do hope that I did not cause myself to be treated with "kid gloves" in the future! I'm a big girl, I can handle it.

PersonaNonGrata (always thought that was a cool screen name, by the way), just so everyone knows--it isn't "debate" in itself that bothers me. It is, as you speak of, the lack of respect (and original thought) that bugs me sometimes. But then, I am guilty of nothing less than the human condition, myself. I really do not feel "shaken" in my beliefs, which are so inclusive (looking for the right word--don't know if that is the best description) that where I come from, they seem almost radical or heretical to many. I can quietly handle that, as well. No--what bothers me the most is when people claim to believe in what I cherish, and then do harm in the name of what I believe. I guess that is the best way I know how to say it.

But, as I said, I am learning. It is just all part of this journey, and I am better for it. I could not have learned this so well except perhaps here in CR, where I am relatively anonymous. In the future, I intend to look at the situation in a different light, and just keep growing.

Thanks to you, and everyone for putting up with my craziness there for a few days. I may have to be offline for a while again (not out of frustration, only necessity). But I look forward to logging back in as soon as I can.

Love and Peace to All,
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Old 07-18-2005, 07:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Maybe I Do Not Belong Here

We don't realize we are growing or moving until we've been stagnant for a while. I know how you feel... There are some people that I haven't seen posting in a while and I wonder where they have gone. The controversial ones - the ones who love to get suspended; and ATF who brings his views to the monotheism boards (which I always appreciate somehow), and Vaj who peeks in to give us a cool breeze of tips that are worth more than any dollar amount, and PathofOne who is paving the way, and Bandit who is open but unwavering, and Mee who's pushing the Watchtower and Awake!s, and Quahom with the heart of gold who moderates with the iron fist....
PersonaNonGrata, Dayaa, and Amica and some others who have given me profound new perspectives...
And you, who is InLove and will not let us forget being in Love.

I see others but I haven't met them because I'm mostly on the Belief and Spirituality and Christian boards; peeking in on Eastern Thought every now and again.
Our regulars are beautiful. Looks like you are part of the bunch.
Am I part of the bunch? Does anyone recognize when I'm not around? But this is not about me, is it?

Where's FaithfulServant, Didymus, and Basstian? Hope they're okay.

Much Love, InLove.
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