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Old 03-14-2007, 11:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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[quote=didymus;23739]"For John came neither eating nor drinking and they say, 'he has a demon'. "The son of man came eating and drinking and they say, 'here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.'" But wisdom is proved by her actions."

Now this is an interesting statement made by Jesus. I don't claim to know the meaning but it does seem self explanatory.

quote] as far as i can see , those who do not want to see will not see.those who are sent by God are not recognised, and any excuse to not accept them will be thrown at them. but it will be their loss in the end.
"Wisdom is proved righteous by its works." Yes, the evidence—the works—make clear that the accusations against both John and Jesus are false.
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you're right he isn't referring to sophia. he was referring to hokhmah or chokmah which is hebrew . sophia is the greek translation. I don't believe that Jesus spoke any greek.
When he was 12, he astounded the wise in the temple (and I don't think that was simply the Hebrews, Romans or Greeks). You had Greek and Roman Jews at the time (as we are made perfectly clear in Paul).

By his birth (BTW), men from Persia came to seek Him out, and they weren't Jews...

Man, so quick to compartmentalize.
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