Marijuana

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by sparrow

From a paper written by Sol Lightman....

Not one case of lung cancer has ever been successfully
linked to marijuana use.

Cannabis, unlike tobacco, does not cause any narrowing of
the small air passageways in the lungs. In fact, marijuana has been shown to be an expectorant and actually dilates the air channels it comes in contact with. This is why many asthma sufferers look to marijuana to provide relief. Doctors have postulated that marijuana may, in this respect, be more effective than all of the prescription drugs on the market.

Studies even show that due to marijuana's ability to clear
the lungs of smog, pollutants, and cigarette smoke, it may
actually reduce your risk of emphysema, bronchitis, and lung
cancer. Smokers of cannabis have been shown to outlive non-
smokers in some areas by up to two years. Medium to heavy
tobacco smokers will live seven to ten years longer if they also
smoke marijuana.

Cannabis is also radically different from tobacco in that it
does not contain nicotine and is not addictive. The psychoactive
ingredient in marijuana, THC, has been accused of causing brain
and genetic damage, but these studies have all been disproven.
In fact, the DEA's own Administrative Law Judge Francis Young has
declared that "marijuana in its natural form is far safer than
many foods we commonly consume."

Perhaps not according to your research...but plenty of deaths have occured as a result of Marijuana use. Needless deaths.

[Awaiting_the_fifth]

Im not aware of any deaths that have occured as a result of marajuana use, could you point us to some info on this?

[sparrow]

Quote Quahom1: Perhaps not according to your research...but plenty of deaths have occured as a result of Marijuana use. Needless deaths.

That is a false statement. More baseless propaganda from the war on drugs.

lw

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Awaiting_the_fifth

Im not aware of any deaths that have occured as a result of marajuana use, could you point us to some info on this?

My partner, and that is enough for me.

v/r

Quahom

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by sparrow

Quote Quahom1: Perhaps not according to your research...but plenty of deaths have occured as a result of Marijuana use. Needless deaths.

That is a false statement. More baseless propaganda from the war on drugs.

lw

You sir, have no idea what you are talking about. I on the other hand have 26 years of LE experience to back up what I am saying.

Your baseless propaganda is neither, nor. It is FACT.

Q

[17th Angel]

I think from the top of my memory Cannabis has three strands of cancer that can effect humans, but I myself have never heard of or experienced a death or overdose from Cannabis, within my family or friends. Even if it was so, just like cigarettes cause death, I wouldn't give them up either.. Oh and spazola Cannabis is not at all addictive... I laugh alot when I see these people come out with terror tactics about the bad points of cannabis or any other drug... and what it can do and how it effects you, and they themselves have never even touched the stuff, see where I am coming from Spaz? Can I call you spaz? ;/ I have a kitten called spaz. The only addictive drugs I take are Nicotene and caffiene... spelt wrong Weed is great but not addictive!

As I quote a movie called half baked...

*in a drug clinic*
"You come in here with your your sob stories of being addicted to weed, I suck d**k for crack.... When was the last dang time you heard about somebody sucking d**k for weed?!"

[sparrow]

Sorry to hear about your partner's death, Quahom1.

Btw what is 26 years of LE? (I don't understand the abbreviation.)

I'd really like to hear more about how the death of your partner was tied to the ingestion of marihuana. I ask in sincerity and without meaning to offend.

lw

[sparrow]

Oh, I got it. Law enforcement..... Let me guess.... Your partner was killed while making a drug bust?

lw

[sparrow]

The WoD is far more dangerous and disruptive to innocent lives than marihuana could ever credibly be accused, much less convicted, imo.

Your war is a sham.

lw

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by sparrow

The WoD is far more dangerous and disruptive to innocent lives than marihuana could ever credibly be accused, much less convicted, imo.

Your war is a sham.

lw

Uhm? WoD? As in the role play game? World of Darkness?

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

My partner, and that is enough for me.

v/r

Quahom

i understand what you are saying Q.

Pot does not give someone a clear head. it distorts things. same with many perscriptions.

i have no idea where they are coming up with Pot not causing health problems either & yes it can be addictive.

you already put this up, but may as well do it again.

this is from american council for drug education.

http://www.acde.org/common/Contents.htm



Marijuana Dangers

• Impaired perception
• Diminished short-term memory
• Loss of concentration and coordination
• Impaired judgement
• Increased risk of accidents
• Loss of motivation
• Diminished inhibitions
• Increased heart rate
• Anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia
• Hallucinations
• Damage to the respiratory, reproductive, and immune systems
• Increased risk of cancer
• Psychological dependency

[Pico]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Uhm? WoD? As in the role play game? World of Darkness?

I think he means "War on Drugs."

I read that the government spends about $10 billion a year on marijuana busts alone (dunno if that's only here in Cali, or the whole US). Immagine if weed was legal, the government could spend that extra $10 billion on something usefull, like stop the budget cuts to schools (being a college student this would be very nice).

Marijuana is also one of California's top 10 cash crops. If it were legal the government could tax it and even make money off it!

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Pico

I think he means "War on Drugs."

I read that the government spends about $10 billion a year on marijuana busts alone (dunno if that's only here in Cali, or the whole US). Immagine if weed was legal, the government could spend that extra $10 billion on something usefull, like stop the budget cuts to schools (being a college student this would be very nice).

Marijuana is also one of California's top 10 cash crops. If it were legal the government could tax it and even make money off it!

interesting.
yet i wonder if the money they make back from fines, court costs, bail or whatever, makes more than taxing & selling it.
if it were sold legal the price of a joint would probably jump to about $30.
plus you end up with law suits toward companies...
i think people would still keep growing there own if it were legal. it seems the process is easier than a distillery. though they would not want people growing their own & we would be back into a whole bunch of laws again.

i have wagered this in my head forever & it just seems like something is missing. i still do not understand why it is illegal because i believe it is the least harmful of them all, especially when i consider what alcohol can do us.

i just dont know.

[earl]

I'm 51 y.o. & last time I used pot was 1974. Back in the days (daze?) it was the tail-end of the hippie era where I grew up & when, of course, drug use culture first really bloomed onto the scene in US. Back then-before all the subsequent research & toll on human llives mounted we young folk actually believed no drug was harmful,( of course very yooung adults tend to think they're invulnerable in general). It definitely would be naive foolishness of that nature now to think there's no down-side to any drug. When it comes to any drug might as well assume "there's no free lunch."

At the same time obviously levels of risk vary from drug to drug. What may be interesting to some ouot there is to realize that just as THC has some positive benefits for certain medical conditions, it likewise has some positive benefits for some psychiatric conditions: there is a certain clinical population I've worked with whose particular form of chronic depression has responded better to their illegal marijuana use than any legal antidepressant they've ever tried. Therefore found it interesting when I read in the "Psychiatric News" a few years ago that given that same widespread observation by other folks in that field a psychiatric research center at UCLA was going to begin investigating its possible use for treating certain froms of chronic depression. Keep in mind there are plenty of negative side-effects (though none very serious typically) from the legal use of prescribed antidepressants. There's even a revival in FDA- approved psychiatric research into use of mild hallucinogens to treat certain psychiatric conditions. Some of you may have heard of the transpersonal psychiatric theoretician, Stanislav Grof-who early in his career extensively studies the psychiatric application of LSD with various conditions. So, the whole drug use issue-both legal & "illegal" is obviously more of a grey area than black & white, though obviously my foregoing points had to do with "controlled & targeted" applications of drug use not recreational let alone dependent use. Now that said, going to go pour me a brandy & light up a cigar Have a good one, Earl

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by earl

I'm 51 y.o. & last time I used pot was 1974. Back in the days (daze?) it was the tail-end of the hippie era where I grew up & when, of course, drug use culture first really bloomed onto the scene in US. Back then-before all the subsequent research & toll on human llives mounted we young folk actually believed no drug was harmful,( of course very yooung adults tend to think they're invulnerable in general). It definitely would be naive foolishness of that nature now to think there's no down-side to any drug. When it comes to any drug might as well assume "there's no free lunch."

Have a good one, Earl

yah. i feel the same. we think we are invincible we when are young. but that all changes & our views change too when we realize how fast life goes. there is no free lunch & it will take its toll one way or the other.
i am clean as whistle today & just glad to be alive.

glad to see you are doing well Earl