Interafaith: Comparative religion: world religions

Go Back   Interfaith forums > General > Lounge

Lounge forget your differences and simply relax - no religion or politics here, please!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 12-24-2003, 04:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
 
veritasamat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Earth
Posts: 20
veritasamat is on a distinguished road
Unhappy Lord of the Rings

Greetings everyone,

I just saw "The Return of the King" this week. I have watched all 3 movies and very much enjoyed the story. However, I noticed something in the last installment that was a little disappointing. Did anyone else notice that at the last battle, all the good characters are white, and all the bad guys are dark-skinned? The ones riding the elephants especially are dressed to look like arabs or some other muslims from the east.

If I remember right, this imagery was true to the book. Why do you think Tolkien would do that?

Peace,
veritasamat
veritasamat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2003, 06:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
Executive Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 817
Susma Rio Sep is on a distinguished road
Kudos for noticing that

Allow me to commend you for noticing.

One explanation why Tolkien used that imagery: that's the way he thinks and feels, even without conscious bigotry.

If you have a statement to be signed, include me. Time for further education for Tolkien.

Susma Rio Sep


Quote:
Originally Posted by veritasamat
Greetings everyone,

I just saw "The Return of the King" this week. I have watched all 3 movies and very much enjoyed the story. However, I noticed something in the last installment that was a little disappointing. Did anyone else notice that at the last battle, all the good characters are white, and all the bad guys are dark-skinned? The ones riding the elephants especially are dressed to look like arabs or some other muslims from the east.

If I remember right, this imagery was true to the book. Why do you think Tolkien would do that?

Peace,
veritasamat
Susma Rio Sep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2003, 09:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
Soul Rebel
 
I, Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: The Highlands of Scotland
Posts: 4,879
I, Brian is on a distinguished road
I guess one reason for the whiteness is that Tolkien was effectively inventing the races according to Anglo-Saxon identity - that was one of his main inspirations for Middle Earth. But it is a good observation that you make.
I, Brian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2003, 03:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
Mod ~ Eastern Thought
 
Vajradhara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Dharmadhatu
Posts: 2,970
Vajradhara is on a distinguished road
did anyone read the book "Bored of the Rings"?

very funny paradoy.. though a bit ribald, if i recall correctly
Vajradhara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2003, 06:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
Resident Anarchist
 
Anzac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 59
Anzac is on a distinguished road
"Bored of the Rings" is a must read as it's like the original, but without Tolkein's over-flowery and long use of the English Language!

As for the film, I wasn't too impressed by it all. The first two were really good and went a long way to working the whole situation. The last one (though the longest) not only rushed through it all - but the happy ending - I will be turning over in my grave when I'm in it for that last hour of happy-endings and love! It was appauling and really toned down the film in some well choreographed battle scenes, but slightly overplayed.

As for the parody with the east - anyone catch the line "let the armies of the west unite" - and he didn't honestly say it was an allegory for Nazi Germany did he...
Anzac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How much did Jesus know he was God? foundationist.org Christianity 44 03-19-2005 12:48 AM
Did some gospel accounts begin as church plays? Skeptic44 Christianity 2 08-20-2003 08:29 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.