Karmic Debt/Forgiveness ? - Page 2

Bandit · 03-21-2005, 02:27 AM

Dear Star

You may want to have another look at the defintion provided by CR as to what Christianity is about.

You may mix religions all you want to, but I find it very disrespectful and offensive that you continue DAILY to mix and match your own teaching of religion(s) with that of the bible and keep bringing it into the Christian Forum.

This also goes for the gnosticism, paganism, mysticism and the other little THINGS you dabble in.

From what I can see the defintion provided by CR does include the blood of Jesus for remission of sins which I believe in, and which you deny.

No...Karma is NOT the same thing as forgiveness neither is it the same thing as forgivenss of sin that you can only obtain through the Lord Jesus Christ.

FREE WILL!

Sacredstar · 03-21-2005, 02:44 PM

Dear Bandit

I think we have already agreed that the bible holds many inner meanings and reap what one sows is very clear indeed, what comes around goes around would be a modern term for this.

What an amazing and evolved man Jesus was, bearing in mind that science are only now discovering the importance of forgiveness to our own health and well-being. Which is why him teaching us to forgive was so very important to him.

Jesus knew all these things 2,000 years ago.

Awesome!

Love beyond measure

kim xx

Bandit · 03-21-2005, 05:53 PM

no karma is not the same thing because it leaves out the soveriengnty of God and in most cases it leaves out Jesus and forgiveness of sin.

Dor · 03-23-2005, 09:44 AM

Sorry Sacred but I must disagree with you completely. That passage has nothing to do with karma. It is about forgiviness of sins which only Jesus can do. We can not pay back the debt we have due to sin in as many lifetimes as you or any hindu or anyone else wants to live. Everyday we sin in some form so the debt gets larger and larger and no amount of repayment will ever catch up so what he did was die for us to forgive it basically he paid the whole debt for us.
Mat 18:27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

The rest of that passage was him trying to get us to realize that if he was able to forgive the biggest debt anyone could ever acrue then we should be able to forgive anything anyone does to us.

Every man is seperate from God. He made it clear sin has no place with him.
Revelation 21:27 "And there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither he that worketh abomination, or maketh a lie, but they who are written in the Lamb's book of life."
Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
Isaiah 57:15 "For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones."
Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

So we are all seperated from God till we accept that he came to us as Jesus Christ to forgive our debts...the ultimate sign of love.

Sorry to tell you this again but salvation is not a state of conscience or obtainable on your own....all paths lead to the same place and one people one planet all that mumbo jumbo is unbiblical...there are many paths but only 2 destinations...one path leads to salvation all the others lead to condemnation.

I, Brian · 03-23-2005, 11:31 AM

No idea what a karma thread is doing in the Christianity forum - this should really have been posted in the Buddhism section.

Anyway, the thread has veered a bit and dealt with some Christian ideas here, so probably best to simply close it, rather than redirect it.

If the question is raised again, then it should be done so in the Buddhism section, where the actual complexities of Karma as a topic can be more properly addressed.