Just out of Curiosity!!!!

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Dor

Well I for one dont see how someone coming here and telling me Christ is a cool dude but he didnt die, his mom wasnt a virgin, if he did die there is no way he was resurrected....how is any of that actively seeking Christ????


So maybe we should look at who are the ones really getting pushed and maybe we should take our leave

V/R

Dor

i agree but we are supposed to keep listening to that.

i will gladly take my leave also

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by wil

I think that is the issue no one is telling YOU any of this. No one is asking you to believe it. In most cases they aren't even saying this in the christian forum. Some are questioning what they read, others are discussing what they have read. And asking for input.

I think that is what Q is referring to. When someone comes with questions we should be providing answers and discussion, not disdain for the questioner or the question.

yah & the answers are completely against the core of Jesus teachings on his death, burial & resurrection. everytime a muslim asks questions you run with it making the thread get moved to another forum, then cant figure out why.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Dor

Ok they may not be "defensive" to some but they dang sure tell you nope cant do that .


Let me lay down the basic foundation of Christianity and Im a wacko Fundamentalist....and isnt that what we are talking about..I think most would agree the basic foundation of Christianity is Christ or did I miss something.

i dont think you are wacko. you have always been loving & caring & had an honest desire to know the scriptures. if it was not for Faithful in the beginning i would never had stayed here.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Bandit

yah & the answers are completely against the core of Jesus teachings on his death, burial & resurrection. everytime a muslim asks questions you run with it making the thread get moved to another forum, then cant figure out why.

I'll ask of you the same I ask of others refering to my posts...just one specific that proves your point...While I get accused readily, to date no one has decided to follow their accusation with any proof...I'm not editing my posts I can't, so if you have evidence of me 'running with a muslim's question and me causing such thread to be moved....

lol Maybe we don't need an alternative, liberal, esoteric, or mainstream christian discussion space....maybe a fundamentalist space would be in order. (it's a joke, although it won't be taken as such)

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by wil

I'll ask of you the same I ask of others refering to my posts...just one specific that proves your point...While I get accused readily, to date no one has decided to follow their accusation with any proof...I'm not editing my posts I can't, so if you have evidence of me 'running with a muslim's question and me causing such thread to be moved....

lol Maybe we don't need an alternative, liberal, esoteric, or mainstream christian discussion space....maybe a fundamentalist space would be in order. (it's a joke, although it won't be taken as such)

i thought we had become friends. good grief Wil, the muslims have more respect for Jesus. you reject his teachings all the time. he said he would be killed, lay down his life, be buried & 3 days resurrect, then ascended into heaven & gave all the reasons for doing it. & yet you make that teaching of Jesus a lie...

no more no more no more no more!

the latter would be fine, but as i already said, you can have the title because it proves nothing & my bags are packed.
i dont have problems with being friends with you at all & i think we would get along just fine as neighbors. but not when it comes to the core...we would not be discussing & changing that ever.

have a good weekend.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by wil

I'll ask of you the same I ask of others refering to my posts...just one specific that proves your point...While I get accused readily, to date no one has decided to follow their accusation with any proof...I'm not editing my posts I can't, so if you have evidence of me 'running with a muslim's question and me causing such thread to be moved....

FWIW Wil, I don't see you doing that.

lunamoth

[lunamoth]

Let's look at the reception Bandit got when he asked his literal vs. liberal question across the fora:

"Hope this helps." (Islam)

"It is a good question that you ask and I am sure it came after a long thought about Islam."

"You don't really need to worry about that, as the parts of the scriptures you enjoy are really the point." (Hindu)

"Bandit, are you looking for a specific answer?
Hinduism could be considered a rather "liberal" religion."

"Interesting topic and replies." (Hinduism)

"As individuals we can and may have any opinion on any subject. There is nothing in Hinduism that enforces conformity, or stifles individual thought or opinion. However, serious seekers learn from Hindu masters, and follow the specific teachings of that master and lineage. The masters themselves belong to a long line of teachers from a specific teaching lineage (sampradayas), all of which can be categorized into a handful of denominations. The collections of the teaching lineages and denominations is what we call Sanatana Dharma or Hinduism.

I hope that helps.

OM Shanti,
A."

“Hopefully, this can clarify things concerning the further questions you offered.” (Hinduism)

"These sorts of questions are tough to answer, but the attitude would likely depend on the individual." (Hinduism)

“What are your views on this? " (Hinduism)

“Bandit,

Dear, dear friend.....” (Baha’i)

“If you have further questions, please feel free to ask them: they're most welcome! :-)

Best,

Bruce” (Baha’i)

“Thank you for your conversation. I may have been able to recognize your humor, but I hope to be able to understand you humor, too.

warmly,
Sassafras” (Baha’i)

“Bandit,

It was a pleasure answering your questions.

I hope our answers have helped you concerning the original post by Wil, "liberal vs literal Christianity". And I hope the other "liberal vs literal" threads have added clarity for you as well.

Have a nice weekend, yourself.

warmly,
Sassafras” (Baha’i)

Yes, your questions were definitively answered, and the answer was a resounding "no" (well, maybe not resounding for Hinduism, which apparently is more flexibile and open), but your questions were welcomed. No one put up a fuss about you asking the questions themselves. No one felt threatened by them.

I think Islam, Hinduism and Baha'i have set a very good example for us.

luna

[Faithfulservant]

reading through this thread I had some thoughts.. after reading Bandits adventures on the other forums (lol) several things were made apparent to me..

Wow we have such an amazing freedom in Christ.. All we have to do to receive the gift of salvation is to believe!

I think we are supposed to pray for ppl that are under such heavy bondage with so many strict conditions.. and not be contentious.

[wil]

Namaste Bandit,

Originally Posted by Bandit

i thought we had become friends. good grief Wil, the muslims have more respect for Jesus. you reject his teachings all the time.

I am willing to turn the other cheek, but only to substantiated accusations. Instead of proving the last accusation I get another one.

And Christians wonder why folks reject Christianity...I think it is mainly because what happens from the pulpit or the pews does not jive with what happens in the parking lot.

I believe in a practical Christianity, one that I can use in the street, at work, amongst friends, in business, at the ballpark and on the dance floor.

I think it ludicrous for one team to have their chaplain say prayers for winning, as if G-d or Jesus takes sides in a football game (or a crusade).

I work at blessing those that 'cut me off' while driving down the freeway, hoping that they make it safely to wherever they are going with such urgency.

I try to mend and don't take part in gossip at work...far be it from me to cast the first stone.

I follow our elder brother and wayshowers footsteps, and don't believe he ever wished us to bow at his feet...exchange in washing them maybe...shaking the dust off as required...

And if accusing me of rejecting the his teachings, of hijacking threads for my own purpose, benefits you on your path in some way. It is quite alright.

But as I said, those that have made such accusations would look a lot better if they would back them up....as I believe that effort would cause one to rescind the post.

[Faithfulservant]

This thread is becoming what I feared the other thread was turning into.... why is that?

[Faithfulservant]

and who finally gets the last word? who wins a no-win argument?

[wil]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

This thread is becoming what I feared the other thread was turning into.... why is that?

It must be me.

[Faithfulservant]

LOL no darnit... its ME!

If everyone stopped and thought about what they said before they reacted in the heat of the moment.. I think we would say very different things.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

This thread is becoming what I feared the other thread was turning into.... why is that?

Because this thread was set up from the first question to turn into this. And because a couple of us who usually back down have decided to hold our ground, at least for a while.

But, it is time to lay down our arms. You are welcome to the last word Faithfulservant, if you wish.

I'll end with

"My peace I give to you..."

lunamoth

[Dor]

No it was set up as a legitimate question....just how far can you twist a words meaning quite far it seems......I have realized one thing I have done wrong on this question and it pointed me to a scripture..

Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

What I havent done is been harmless as a dove....which I will definately try to do in the future but I doubt Im ever going to be completely able to not call the wolves out as wolves.