Jewish Dress Inquiry

Ben-Ja'min87 · 05-08-2004, 06:10 AM

Hello. I'm a student, and in English we have to pick a "rite of passage" to do an oral on. I'm going to talk about Bar Mitzvah, and I was going to wear a Jewish skullcap just for the visuals. Then I thought if I should, then I realised I didn't know

So can anyone enlighten me on the rules for Jewish dress regarding Gentiles? Particularly the rules for the skullcap if any. I've always wondered. Is it strictly Jewish or is it a traditional Israeli peice of clothing?

Vajradhara · 05-10-2004, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben-Ja'min87

Hello. I'm a student, and in English we have to pick a "rite of passage" to do an oral on. I'm going to talk about Bar Mitzvah, and I was going to wear a Jewish skullcap just for the visuals. Then I thought if I should, then I realised I didn't know

So can anyone enlighten me on the rules for Jewish dress regarding Gentiles? Particularly the rules for the skullcap if any. I've always wondered. Is it strictly Jewish or is it a traditional Israeli peice of clothing?

Namaste Ben-ja'min,

thank you for the post.

you should probably take a look at this site:

http://www.jewfaq.org/

having said that... when i've had a chance to go to Temple, i've always worn a skullcap inside the building... whilst outside, this was never required nor encouraged.

perhaps, our more learned Jewish members will pop by to help you out on this one...

bananabrain · 05-11-2004, 09:24 AM

i don't think it's "offensive", but it is unnecessary. to cover one's head is a religious requirement and it's not one that applies to you in this context. it might confuse your audience into thinking you're jewish or something.

i'm not a fan of bar mitzvah, especially. it's got really stupid these days.

b'shalom

bananabrain

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine · 05-12-2004, 11:39 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong here, bb, but isn't the aliya (sp?) or the calling up to read the torah, the only thing really necessary for the bar mitzvoh? I remember that my father never had a "formal" bar mitzvoh, but he had gone up to read a number of times, so technically, he was bar mitzvohed. Thanks ahead of time.

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

bananabrain · 05-14-2004, 10:46 AM

yes, phyllis, that's exactly what it ought to be. in fact, the age of 13 for a man (and 12 for a woman) is the point at which you become an adult in the eyes of the halacha and therefore incur the obligations and responsibilities that go with the status - in the case of the man, to put on tefillin every day, pray, etc. all the hoopla with the chop-liver statue of the barmitzvah boy is for the parents to show off to their mates and can only detract from the religious significance.

b'shalom

bananabrain

Ben-Ja'min87 · 05-16-2004, 05:26 AM

Thanks Vajradhara, thanks Banabrain, thanks Phyllis.

I had a feeling it was a silly idea, thanks for the clearing up.

Vajradhara · 05-17-2004, 07:16 PM

Namaste,

acutally.. it wasn't a silly idea at all... and the fact that you chose to invesigate the issue prior to doing it displays your concern for other beings... and this reflects well on you

glad to be of assistance!

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Ben-Ja'min87 Ben-Ja'min87 Join Date: May 2004 Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 2	Jewish Dress Inquiry Hello. I'm a student, and in English we have to pick a "rite of passage" to do an oral on. I'm going to talk about Bar Mitzvah, and I was going to wear a Jewish skullcap just for the visuals. Then I thought if I should, then I realised I didn't know So can anyone enlighten me on the rules for Jewish dress regarding Gentiles? Particularly the rules for the skullcap if any. I've always wondered. Is it strictly Jewish or is it a traditional Israeli peice of clothing?

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05-11-2004, 09:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
bananabrain Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, UK, Malkhut she'be'Assiyah Posts: 1,464	i don't think it's "offensive", but it is unnecessary. to cover one's head is a religious requirement and it's not one that applies to you in this context. it might confuse your audience into thinking you're jewish or something. i'm not a fan of bar mitzvah, especially. it's got really stupid these days. b'shalom bananabrain

05-12-2004, 11:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine Junior Moderator, Intro Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 952	Correct me if I'm wrong here, bb, but isn't the aliya (sp?) or the calling up to read the torah, the only thing really necessary for the bar mitzvoh? I remember that my father never had a "formal" bar mitzvoh, but he had gone up to read a number of times, so technically, he was bar mitzvohed. Thanks ahead of time. Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

05-14-2004, 10:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
bananabrain Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London, UK, Malkhut she'be'Assiyah Posts: 1,464	yes, phyllis, that's exactly what it ought to be. in fact, the age of 13 for a man (and 12 for a woman) is the point at which you become an adult in the eyes of the halacha and therefore incur the obligations and responsibilities that go with the status - in the case of the man, to put on tefillin every day, pray, etc. all the hoopla with the chop-liver statue of the barmitzvah boy is for the parents to show off to their mates and can only detract from the religious significance. b'shalom bananabrain

05-16-2004, 05:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ben-Ja'min87 Ben-Ja'min87 Join Date: May 2004 Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 2	Thanks Vajradhara, thanks Banabrain, thanks Phyllis. I had a feeling it was a silly idea, thanks for the clearing up.

05-17-2004, 07:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Vajradhara Mod ~ Eastern Thought Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Dharmadhatu Posts: 2,667	Namaste, acutally.. it wasn't a silly idea at all... and the fact that you chose to invesigate the issue prior to doing it displays your concern for other beings... and this reflects well on you glad to be of assistance!