Jesus is a reigning king

[Caimanson]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

making predictions of end times, when your religions track records is already proven false many times...this is not christianity. christians are to simply pray, worship, and watch for the coming of the lord, and rejoice in his salvation and spread the gospel, not preoccupy ourselves with false prophecies, inaccurate date setting, and following doctrines of man (watchtower) and letting it think for us, rather than reading the word of god and letting the spirit guide us in truth that jesus is coming again, but when that is, no man knows.

Very well said.
Matthew 24, very clear.

[BlaznFattyz]

Just before this time people will be saying the Christ is here or the Christ is there - don't you believe them! There will be many false Christ's and false prophets. Some will even perform great miracles and signs so that even the very elect of God would be deceived if that were possible. They will say Christ is in a hidden room or He's out in the wilderness; don't believe it. For the Son of Man will come as visibly and obviously as the sun when it rises in the east and shines to the furthest west.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Caimanson

Very well said.
Matthew 24, very clear.

yes, spreading the goodnews is what all christians should be doing especially in this time of the end, matthew 24;14 it really is goodnews that Jesus is now a reigning king in the newly established kingdom that Jehovah has set up in this time of the end . Daniel 7;13-14 daniel 2;44
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14
(Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first.
(Revelation 14:6) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people,.............. yes the signs of the times are all happening , along with all the signs that Jesus mentioned in matthew 24 , war, earthquakes ,famine, ect ,ect, there is a great work going on and it is GOOD NEWS indeed. it is the goodnews that Jesus is a reigning king in Gods heavenly kingdom goverment Daniel 2;44 daniel 7;13-14

[mee]

Originally Posted by InLove

I don't usually get into these kind of discussions, but I thought it only fair to include the following here for consideration. I know there are several people here who don't like Billy Graham any more than they like the J.W. view, so I was interested in how his ideas here might go over.



InPeace,
InLove

"And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest." (Revelation 6:2)
yes Jesus certainly is a warrior king , bent on doing Jehovahs will . he is out to get rid of all those in opposition . so i would say that the rider of the white horse in revelation 6 is the same rider as in chapter 19 and that it is Jesus christ himself as a newly enthroned king, it says that a crown was given to him ,and in Daniel it says that Jehovah or the (ancient of days ) gave Jesus great aurthority Daniel 7;13-14
In the Bible, the horse often symbolizes warfare.
How appropriate this is, for it portrays warfare that is clean and righteous in Jehovah’s holy eyes!—See also Revelation 19:11, 14.
Why, though, must the newly crowned King ride forth to war? It is because his kingship is established in the face of bitter opposition from Jehovah’s chief adversary, Satan the Devil, and those on earth who—knowingly or unknowingly—serve Satan’s ends.

[mee]

Originally Posted by wil

Am I reading the following wrong...it appears to me they are stating Jesus took the throne in 1874 and 1914 would be the end. I read elsewhere that the Watchtower moved the end date to 1925 and then again to 1975 and when those dates came and went many moved on as the continual moving date did not sit well. Were those writing the Watchtower then wrong, or did everyone misinterpret?

As mentioned earlier , the view point many years ago was not clear ,because the understanding did not come until the time of the end . Daniel 12;4 back in the 1800s every one thought they were going to heaven , the understanding had not yet been revealed that the great crowd would inherit the earth , REVELATION 7;9-10 so the understanding was hazy , but at Jehovahs own time the true knowledge was made abundant and the understanding about christs PRESENCE in kingdom power was revealed , many ones fell away in the early years because it did not happen as they thought it should. at one time everyone thought that in 1914 they would be taken to heaven, they knew it was an inportant date but the understanding about that date had not yet been revealed , but this falling away of some also sifted out those who were not willing to wait for Jehovahs revealing . in fact these ones even started to slander the faithful true christians , and because of this they are spoken of in the bible as an evil slave that is outside in the darkness, they are in darkness in a spiritual sense because Jehovah no longer shines his light on them ,and even that is prophesied to happen . but now in this time since 1914 the understanding has progressed and progressed . and it is clearer and clearer.

[mee]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

Just before this time people will be saying the Christ is here or the Christ is there - don't you believe them! There will be many false Christ's and false prophets. Some will even perform great miracles and signs so that even the very elect of God would be deceived if that were possible. They will say Christ is in a hidden room or He's out in the wilderness; don't believe it. For the Son of Man will come as visibly and obviously as the sun when it rises in the east and shines to the furthest west.

very true, Jesus will never come to the earth again he doesnt need to come back to the earth he is a reigning king in the heavenly kingdom DANIEL 2;44 DANIEL 7;13-14 but the day of Jehovah is very near , and soon this reigning king will turn his attention to the earth and go into action. so now is the time to put ourselves on the side of this reigning king , that is why the goodnews is being made known ,it is for a witness or to put people on notice and then the end will come , not the end of the planet but the end of manmade rulerships matthew 24;14 Daniel 2;44
(Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first.

[BlaznFattyz]

Originally Posted by mee

...Jesus will never come to the earth again he doesnt need to come back to the earth...

I dont think so...

Jesus will come again soon to rapture his own and meet them in the air. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. And this same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go Into heaven.

In days to come, The mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established as the highest mountain and raised above the hills. All nations shall stream toward it; many peoples shall come and say: "Come, let us climb the LORD'S mountain, to the house of the God of Jacob, That he may instruct us in his ways, and we may walk in his paths." For from Zion shall go forth instruction, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy. The glory of Lebanon will be given to it, the splendor of Carmel and Sharon; they will see the glory of the LORD, the splendor of our God.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

I dont think so...

Jesus will come again soon to rapture his own and meet them in the air. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. And this same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go Into heaven.

In days to come, The mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established as the highest mountain and raised above the hills. All nations shall stream toward it; many peoples shall come and say: "Come, let us climb the LORD'S mountain, to the house of the God of Jacob, That he may instruct us in his ways, and we may walk in his paths." For from Zion shall go forth instruction, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy. The glory of Lebanon will be given to it, the splendor of Carmel and Sharon; they will see the glory of the LORD, the splendor of our God.

To save you another watchtower copy and paste... I guarantee Mee's answer will be that jesus was talking to those gathered around that table not everyone, they are apart of the small flock... Apparently no different, nothing special... Apparently... But for some reason they have some small exclusive club.... 144,000 isn't Mee? Not special at all, but they get to live with god and jesus and we stay here....

[mee]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

To save you another watchtower copy and paste... I guarantee Mee's answer will be that jesus was talking to those gathered around that table not everyone, they are apart of the small flock... Apparently no different, nothing special... Apparently... But for some reason they have some small exclusive club.... 144,000 isn't Mee? Not special at all, but they get to live with god and jesus and we stay here....

nice one ............ accurate bible knowledge is becoming more abundant, that is just what the bible teaches, it will only be 144,000 who are going to heaven to be with Jesus and they will be going to rule with Jesus as kings and priests, it is just as the following verses tell us .
and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.revelation 5;10
(Revelation 20:6) Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.
"Have no fear, little flock, because your Father has approved of giving you the kingdom."—LUKE 12:32.
and yes , the GREAT CROWD of other sheep will go on to inherit the earth .
"I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd."JOHN 10:16.
After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: "Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb."revelation 7;9-10
Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.matthew 5;5

But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,

And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.psalm 37;11

[mee]

[quote=BlaznFattyz;112353]I dont think so...



In days to come, The mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established as the highest mountain and raised above the hills. All nations shall stream toward it; many peoples shall come and say: "Come, let us climb the LORD'S mountain, to the house of the God of Jacob, That he may instruct us in his ways, and we may walk in his paths." For from Zion shall go forth instruction, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

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yes its all happening in this time that we are living in ,bible prophecy always comes true , many from all nations are being taught by the most high Jehovah .
And it must occur in the final part of the days [that] the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it all the nations must stream. And many peoples will certainly go and say: "Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths." For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.Isaiah 2;2-4 no more warfare for Gods people they are taught by Jehovah , and they have beaten their swords into plow shares. being instructed by the most high leads to peaceful conditions. and these ones who are being taught peace are from all nations and here they are spoken of in revelation 7;9-10
After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: "Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb."..................... because they recognise Gods reigning king Jesus christ they are being fed by the channel Jesus is feeding matthew 24-45-47 ................. following the christ is the way to go it will lead to peace on the earth.

[Penguin]

LOL @ 17th. Wise words indeed Fatty also.

[17th Angel]

Sorry, been texting without thinking latley... *puts his mind on a leash*

Too many magic carpet rides for me... *blanks out to a 70's disco and starts grooving to Steppenwolf - Magic carpet ride.*

*slaps himself on the wrist*

My appologies Mee...

[mee]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Sorry, been texting without thinking latley... *puts his mind on a leash*

Too many magic carpet rides for me... *blanks out to a 70's disco and starts grooving to Steppenwolf - Magic carpet ride.*

*slaps himself on the wrist*

My appologies Mee...

how about this rideYouTube - Magic Carpet Ride


Cockpit vid with music( Steppenwolf-Magic Carpet Ride)its the ...
3 min 32 sec -
YouTube - Magic Carpet Ride

[17th Angel]

Your topic is a statement.... And this statement is either a pure flat out lie... Or I have missed somthing.... :\

World Rulers - Kings Presidents Prime Ministers of the World

This lists all the kings known to maaaaaan ;\ there is no one there called jesus..... Sup wit dat B ride?!

[mee]

[quote=17th Angel;126842]Your topic is a statement.... And this statement is either a pure flat out lie... Or I have missed somthing.... :\

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Jesus is a reigning king and it is certainly the truth but many refuse to see with the eye of understanding .
Bible evidence shows that in the year 1914 C.E. God’s time arrived for Christ to return and begin ruling. It was then that the cry was heard in heaven: "Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ."—Revelation 12:10.
To return does not always mean that one goes to a literal place. Thus sick persons are said to ‘return to health.’ And a former ruler may be said to ‘return to power.
In the same way, Christ’s return does not mean that he literally comes back to this earth. Rather, it means that he takes Kingdom power toward this earth and turns his attention to it. He does not need to leave his heavenly throne and actually come down to earth to do this.
When God set his Son upon the throne, the rulers of the earth should have quit "muttering an empty thing." They should have acknowledged the King immediately and rendered him full obedience .
In verse 2 of the second psalm, God is commanding the nations to kiss, or welcome, his Son as anointed King.
Those refusing to recognize the authority of God’s chosen King insult Jehovah. They deny Jehovah God’s universal sovereignty and his authority and ability to select the King that is the best ruler for mankind. its all in psalm 2 ;1-12 ................ welcoming Gods chosen king is the way to go as it leads to Salvation