Its not just hearing the word

[rudiger]

Not Just Hearing The Word

In many chapters in the Bible it speaks of not just hearing the word, but also following it. In Matthew 7:21 it says: Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. We must live by the Will of the Father and as Jesus did. In James 1:22 it clearly states the fact about just hearing the word. It says; Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror and after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he look like. Now who wants to forget what he looks like? That’s something to think about.

It also says in Matthew 12:48 it says; He replied to him, Who is my mother, and who are my brothers? Pointing to his disciples, he said, “here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” We are one Family in Jesus Christ. Furthermore Jesus asks the question in Luke 6:46 saying; Why do you call me, Lord, Lord, and do not do what I say? We all need to ask ourselves that question. If you look at John 14:21 it says; Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. “He who loves me will be loved by my Father,” and I too will love him and show myself to him. What a wonderful statement. Now look at 1John 5:3 it says; This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

Jesus is so powerful, he gave us so many wonderful works. Look at 1John 2:5 it says; But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. Jesus even gave us the ability to learn his word on our on. Look at 1John 2:20 it says; But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. Now look at verse 2:27 it says; As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit---just as it has taught you, remain in him. To sum it up I think it is best written in Romans 12:1 it says; Therefore I urge you, brothers, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, Holy and pleasing to God---this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is--- his good, pleasing and perfect will. Jesus is truly merciful and deserves all the praise and glory.

[brucegdc]

Moved to Christianity...might spark a conversation there

By the way, Rudiger, welcome to CR. However, please remember this is a place for discussion, not a pulpit, and hold down the preaching....especially in the general fora.

... Bruce

[Quahom1]

Welcome to CR Rudiger.

I would like to point out an often missed part of Christianity. It does not work when forced upon one. Jesus comes into the lives of those He chooses, when the time is right for them.

Brow beating really never converted anyone (not even those who believe). Discuss with us your thoughts, but preaching to the choir is rather mute.

Oh, and be ready to have your points countered (steel sharpening steel...)

Once again, welcome to CR

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[Flame]

Where did he "force" anything? Why is the gospel (truth) such an offensive? The Bible even agrees with what he said - "we cant just say, we MUST do!"

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Flame

Where did he "force" anything? Why is the gospel (truth) such an offensive? The Bible even agrees with what he said - "we cant just say, we MUST do!"

Welcome to CR Flame. And be at ease. This is a discussion board. We each have our own opinion. Share yours, but do not think yours is the only opinion or thought around. That is my sole point...

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[Flame]

Thanks for the welcome, and ur opinion. Here's mine. What was said in the post is biblical, nothing was wrong with it. So that being the case, are u saying u have a problem with the Bible?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Flame

Thanks for the welcome, and ur opinion. Here's mine. What was said in the post is biblical, nothing was wrong with it. So that being the case, are u saying u have a problem with the Bible?

No problem with the Bible...just some who might interpret it in certain ways, and insist that that is the only way the Bible should be interpreted. That is a mistake.

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[Flame]

OK fair enough. Take a look at both the Old and New Testaments. See how all of God's people preached. As a matter of fact, look at Jesus. He talked about Hell and the consequences of sins more than anyone else in the NT. The Lord himself had somethings to say about people who only give lip service. You know, the "sayers" and not "doers" as was talked about in the orignal post. How do you "interprete" all of these things?

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by Flame

Where did he "force" anything? Why is the gospel (truth) such an offensive? The Bible even agrees with what he said - "we cant just say, we MUST do!"

I think you're misconstruing the topic - the original post was moved because it would be interpretated as witnessing at the members here. Hence why it was moved to a possibly more appropriate board.

Please see the Code of Conduct for more information on posting policy:
http://www.comparative-religion.com/...of-conduct.php

Now, as to this thread - is there anything in the original post to discuss, or does moving it to the Christianity section leave it looking like preaching at the choir?

[InLove]

Hug'em, don't bug 'em?

[Flame]

The gospel is offensive. Anyone preaching the truth of it will not be liked, or looked upon as tolerant, until that person that is recieving the news sees the truth for themselves, never before!

[truthseeker]

The Gospel is not offensive.

It is the force feeding by sword that is offensive. You got these people that want to be Jesus heros and save the world by making them realize their doom via 'doth sayeth the Word of God'. It is the message by the interpreter that is offensive. Everybody doesn't need to feel hellfire to come to Jesus. Your doom and necessity for salvation isn't necessarily the next man's plight.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

The Gospel is not offensive.

It is the force feeding by sword that is offensive. You got these people that want to be Jesus heros and save the world by making them realize their doom via 'doth sayeth the Word of God'. It is the message by the interpreter that is offensive. Everybody doesn't need to feel hellfire to come to Jesus. Your doom and necessity for salvation isn't necessarily the next man's plight.

right and if someone does not want to hear it or is into something else, then leave them alone & move along & live peacable with all men. that would also, be a case of being a doer of the Word.

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by Flame

The gospel is offensive. Anyone preaching the truth of it will not be liked, or looked upon as tolerant, until that person that is recieving the news sees the truth for themselves, never before!

There's nothing tolerant about someone shoving their personal opinion in other people's faces.

This is an interfaith community, where people need to accept boundaries of faith and work within them.

This isn't a place for people to preach at others - if you want to do that, feel free to move on, or be moved on.

[Flame]

To all the people that say that the gospel isnt offensive, you should read the Bible. Most of the people (including Jesus), that preached it were killed. They were killed because their message included talks of hell, repentence, and judgement to come. None of them preached the "gentle Jesus loves you" story, without first warning of wrath. That said, this isnt a place to preach, so I wont. I just wanted to correct your understand of the Bible.

You guys will probably say that it is my "interpretation" of the Bible, right?