Is there only one true God ? - Page 6

esa888 · 01-05-2008, 02:24 PM

The meaning of the word Truth= precise.

I Try seperate the idea of god from any kind of belief system, i would say, god is all and we are all within god.

It is impossible to define god, as one, or in a precise way, as this would be a negative definition.

God is all, and has many aspects, ie - seen in many different ways, to say that one group of people's way of seeing is more precise than another is egoistic and arrogent.

God cannot be defined by us, our teachings about the devine, can only help show us the way.

China Cat Sunflower · 01-05-2008, 05:36 PM

I don't think that "God" is a very useful concept outside monotheism. We keep borrowing this term, modifying it to suit our own purposes, and then feeding it back to the monotheists as if we're talking about the same thing they are. But we aren't.

Chris

Tao_Equus · 01-05-2008, 06:02 PM

Hi esa and welcome to CR.
You being from Sheffield should I look forward to some steel sharp points or Pulp? Well Jarvis never produced any pulp not worth listening to, so I look forward to reading what you have to say.

YouTube - Pulp - Common People

Tao

esa888 · 01-05-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Hi esa and welcome to CR.
You being from Sheffield should I look forward to some steel sharp points or Pulp? Well Jarvis never produced any pulp not worth listening to, so I look forward to reading what you have to say.

YouTube - Pulp - Common People

Tao

Thankyou for the welcome, it is most greatfully recieved. LoL i once bumped into jarvis cocker at a free party, in a place called brown street. He was sat drinking a bottle of beer on a table, no groupies or anyone even talking to him, i kept quiet and didnt speak to him either,my friends just pointed him out( i thought that he maybe was sick of people going ` allright jarvis !`).
He is a great sheffielder, top bloke.

esa888 · 01-05-2008, 07:51 PM

Thankyou for the welcome it is most greatfully recieved, LoL - i bumped into jarvis cocker at a free party once, a while back( he was sat on a table drinking a bottle of beer at a place called brown street, some of my friends pointed him out, he used to have a studio near there)

esa888 · 01-05-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

I don't think that "God" is a very useful concept outside monotheism. We keep borrowing this term, modifying it to suit our own purposes, and then feeding it back to the monotheists as if we're talking about the same thing they are. But we aren't.

Chris

Hi chris,
i have no problem myself with monothiesm, one thing i am wondering :-

Is there a difference between god as a universal law, or a universal conscious being, or are they both just describing the same thing?

mee · 01-30-2008, 04:50 PM

is there only one true God ?

yes indeed. and his name is Jehovah PSALM 83;18

Bruce Michael · 01-30-2008, 09:00 PM

Salvation in Watchtower doctrine is “taking in knowledge” of God and Christ (John 17:3 NWT) not “knowing” God in a personal relationship.

If this is true then why will Christ at the judgment say to the condemned “I never knew you?” Doesn’t he know all about these people?

mee · 01-31-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Michael

Salvation in Watchtower doctrine is “taking in knowledge” of God and Christ (John 17:3 NWT) not “knowing” God in a personal relationship.

If this is true then why will Christ at the judgment say to the condemned “I never knew you?” Doesn’t he know all about these people?

yes ,getting to know God is just what all men and women should do .
And then we can have a Relationship That Grows Ever Closer.
Jehovah is a God Worth Knowing.
and then we can be "Bearing Fruit in Every Good Work"......... nice

Bruce Michael · 01-31-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

yes ,getting to know God is just what all men and women should do .
And then we can have a Relationship That Grows Ever Closer.
Jehovah is a God Worth Knowing.
and then we can be "Bearing Fruit in Every Good Work"......... nice

Yes, but do you know God in a personal relationship?

mee · 02-02-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Michael

Yes, but do you know God in a personal relationship?

so what does knowing God mean ? it does not just mean knowing what his name is, it means many things .

Much effort is required to get to know Jehovah God and enjoy a close relationship with him.

To know God is to love God.
To know and to love God is to keep his commandments.

It means to cease walking in darkness and to put the truth into practice. It is to follow the lead of God’s Word and spirit and to stick to the truth.

Knowing God, we feel free to approach him in prayer, with the conviction that he hears us and, in reply, will give us all things needed to perform his will.—1 John 1:5-7; 2:3, 4, 13, 14; 3:19-24; 4:6-8, 13; 5:3, 14, 15.

knowing God is not some sudden emotional sensation, such as many "born again Christians" claim to have enjoyed.

The psalmist said: "Make me know your own ways, O Jehovah; teach me your own paths. Make me walk in your truth and teach me, for you are my God of salvation. In you I have hoped all day long." (Psalm 25:4, 5) "Knowing" God is, therefore, an entire way of life!

sangam · 02-02-2008, 12:04 PM

there is no God but God

mee · 02-03-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sangam

there is no God but God

there is no Almighty God other than JEHOVAH psalm 83;18

China Cat Sunflower · 02-04-2008, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by esa888

Hi chris,
i have no problem myself with monothiesm, one thing i am wondering :-

Is there a difference between god as a universal law, or a universal conscious being, or are they both just describing the same thing?

Sorry, I just saw this.

It depends on one's predilection toward anthropomorphization. To me, making God a Being is tantamount to idolatry unless one is aware that this is a subjective construct of his own making, and not a true representation of whatever it is that God is OF ITSELF. But when people speak of God, usually they mean some anthropomorphized construct of their own making, so the term is useless for the most part as an exchangeable marker.

Chris

Saltmeister · 02-04-2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

I don't think that "God" is a very useful concept outside monotheism. We keep borrowing this term, modifying it to suit our own purposes, and then feeding it back to the monotheists as if we're talking about the same thing they are. But we aren't.

Chris

The word "God" is similar in nature to "love" and "justice." It's just a word people use. It is only meaningful in the way it's used, not in the way others may force us to use it. Make of it what you will.