Is Jesus God, Herculese or Achillees?

Quahom1 · 08-10-2008, 08:38 PM

Main stream Christianity puts Jesus as God, some faiths claiming Christianity put Jesus as Son of God/savior only. Others still consider Jesus as "Hero"

My take is this:

If he is God 'nuff said.

If he is half God, then he has pennance to do to exalt himself (just like Herculese of the Greco mythology), hence more or less mortal, like man, and he'll never take a throne, as long as Zeus is around (which would be for a long long time).

If he is Hero (like Achileese), then his is the stuff all men should look to become as good as, if not better. It also means he has a weakness...

Which is he?

juantoo3 · 08-14-2008, 04:35 AM

Dunno.

Whatever he is/was/am, he was an extraordinary teacher.

Dream · 08-14-2008, 05:08 AM

You mean that 'Mainstream' Christianity that cannot reconcile itself to its Jewish roots ? Are you referring the one that if it got Moses and Noah confused it would excommunicates people who tried to disagree? Is it the city of gold and stone in Italy to which you refer?

China Cat Sunflower · 08-14-2008, 05:40 AM

Which Jesus?

Chris

Dream · 08-14-2008, 11:10 AM

Sorry for not answering before....

Quote:

Hebrews 4:7-9 (BBE) Who in the days of his flesh, having sent up
prayers and requests with strong crying and weeping to him who
was able to give him salvation from death, had his prayer answered because of his fear of God. And though he was a Son, through the pain which he underwent, the knowledge came to him of what it was to be under God's orders; And when he had been made complete, he became the giver of eternal salvation to all those who are under his orders;

Hebrews 9:11-13 But now Christ has come as the high priest of
the good things of the future, through this greater and better Tent,
not made with hands, that is to say, not of this world, and has
gone once and for ever into the holy place, having got eternal
salvation, not through the blood of goats and young oxen, but
through his blood. And has gone once and for ever into the holy
place, having got eternal salvation, not through the blood of goats
and young oxen, but through his blood.

Hebrews 9:13-14 For if the blood of goats and oxen, and the dust from the burning of a young cow, being put on the unclean, make the flesh clean: How much more will the blood of Christ, who, being without sin, made an offering of himself to God through the Holy Spirit, make your hearts clean from dead works to be servants of the living God?

The weakness of mankind is overcome by Christ -- a life filled with the Scriptures, which is another way of saying filled with The Spirit. This author emphasizes the fullness by saying 'Christ' instead of 'Jesus', and the key to overcoming the weaknesses of men was Christ. We are elsewhere advised to be 'Filled with the spirit' and told 'Christ in us' is the hope of glory. This fullness of Scripture is also described by John as the 'Word made flesh'. The sacrifice was his obedience even up to the point of death, through which he was made complete in order to ascend through the heavens where he intercedes with us on the Father's behalf. This does not mean our prayers are redirected through Jesus, but that Jesus works with us to bring us up.

Alex P · 08-14-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Main stream Christianity puts Jesus as God, some faiths claiming Christianity put Jesus as Son of God/savior only. Others still consider Jesus as "Hero"

My take is this:

If he is God 'nuff said.

If he is half God, then he has pennance to do to exalt himself (just like Herculese of the Greco mythology), hence more or less mortal, like man, and he'll never take a throne, as long as Zeus is around (which would be for a long long time).

If he is Hero (like Achileese), then his is the stuff all men should look to become as good as, if not better. It also means he has a weakness...

Which is he?

The bible said that there were more than one that claim to be gods did it not? But it also says there is only ONE true god. YHWH.... And Jesus is Jesus

These beings such as Hercules son of Zeus... The times of the Noah floods (lol I have been able to tie noah into my last like four threads I been on lol.) Angels were taking daughters of man for wives? God sent the floods to eliminate such things... Could Zeus not be an angel?

And his offspring was......? herculese..... And because of beings like this (and of course other things to boot) In the second month on the 17th day, the floodgates of heaven opened up.