Is God A "white Man" In A Robe?

[theocritus]

God is going to be presented how the presenter wants to show him. They are all correct because God is all in my opinion. Personally I don't view "God" as a him or her. My own preferred term is "source" and I see it every where. Looking in the mirror, at my children, or nature I see source.

Should an image be pushed on to others as the only option? No. If some one sees the euro-centric image and ask: Is that God? The proper answer: That is my view of God.

/theo
as you think, so shall you be

[YO-ELEVEN-11]

Originally Posted by InLove

I agree, unless you are suggesting that we ban them (and I think both have been in the past). I thought Malcolm X was great. The book, the movie, and the man. I also think that Mark Twain was trying to say something beyond the obvious in his writings.

I'm truly sorry if I offended you. I did not mean to. I see art (I include literature) as a kind of roadmap of the ages. It points to history. I agree with you that Huck Finn should not be presented to children because of the nature of the language. But you know, think of who the real hero in that book was.

And I was not equating it in any way with any holy book.

And I can't seem to put cigarette ads in the same category as the human individual who tries to express something regarding the realm of the Spiritual.

I gotta go cook some dinner, and I'm not sure that I have said things very well here. But I thought I should make an attempt. After all, I did open that can of worms, didn't I? (Not for dinner, you understand.)

InPeace,
InLove

GOD BLESS

[YO-ELEVEN-11]

Originally Posted by theocritus

God is going to be presented how the presenter wants to show him. They are all correct because God is all in my opinion. Personally I don't view "God" as a him or her. My own preferred term is "source" and I see it every where. Looking in the mirror, at my children, or nature I see source.

Should an image be pushed on to others as the only option? No. If some one sees the euro-centric image and ask: Is that God? The proper answer: That is my view of God.

/theo
as you think, so shall you be

WoW, very profound and insightful.
I am close to your age (in the 30's though) but, your words make me question if I am younger or older than you.

[YO-ELEVEN-11]

Originally Posted by wil

A mirror, a perfect creation, reflection. Eachness in the allness.

Wil, like said before , you never cease to amaze me.
You have got a true gift for bringing people together.
Do not waste it. I suggest that you share it and pass that sharing on to others.

[China Cat Sunflower]

I'm sorely tempted to go off on an extended rant about the importance of freedom of speech and expression...but I won't.

I don't recall ever seeing an image of God except in cartoons and other obviously humorous caricatures where he is depicted as an old white dude in a robe. I've conversed with a number of people who insist that God is male, but I never got the impression that they had a clear image in mind of what he looks like.

I'm never quite sure which God people are talking about: not which of many, but which level. It doesn't seem possible not to anthropomorphise God and still communicate anything about what IT might be, so I guess some mental image/idol is unavoidable. I think it's important to remember that whatever we use to represent God isn't God Itself. With that firmly in mind I don't see anything wrong with representing IT any way we find meaningful.

Chris

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by InLove

"Our Pilot". I asked earlier. Just curious.

Believe it or not, in an Admiral's office...just a few years ago.

v/r

Q

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

I'm sorely tempted to go off on an extended rant about the importance of freedom of speech and expression...but I won't.

I don't recall ever seeing an image of God except in cartoons and other obviously humorous caricatures where he is depicted as an old white dude in a robe. I've conversed with a number of people who insist that God is male, but I never got the impression that they had a clear image in mind of what he looks like.

I'm never quite sure which God people are talking about: not which of many, but which level. It doesn't seem possible not to anthropomorphise God and still communicate anything about what IT might be, so I guess some mental image/idol is unavoidable. I think it's important to remember that whatever we use to represent God isn't God Itself. With that firmly in mind I don't see anything wrong with representing IT any way we find meaningful.

Chris

Chris,

I just can't seem to bring myself to considering God as "erotic" in display. That's all. I never said pictures of such should not be presented, only that I found the one present by Yo, to be, disturbing. That's all.

I'm not going to change my thinking on it, but ne're did I say get rid of it. I simply expressed my own damn opinion on something...

v/r

Q

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Chris,

I just can't seem to bring myself to considering God as "erotic" in display. That's all. I never said pictures of such should not be presented, only that I found the one present by Yo, to be, disturbing. That's all.

I'm not going to change my thinking on it, but ne're did I say get rid of it. I simply expressed my own damn opinion on something...

v/r

Q

Right on brutha, nothing wrong with expressing one's opinion that I can see.

I take your point about the Mohammed caricatures. I actually thought the one where his turban was a bomb hit the nail squarely on the head.

Chris

[YO-ELEVEN-11]

Originally Posted by InLove

I agree, unless you are suggesting that we ban them (and I think both have been in the past

Inlove, you have a life that is GLOURIOUIS.
To be able to cook diner is proof engouh.
GOD BLESS

Originally Posted by InLove

I thought Malcolm X was great. The book, the movie, and the man. I also think that Mark Twain was trying to say something beyond the obvious in his writings. I'm truly sorry if I offended you. I did not mean to. I see art (I include literature) as a kind of roadmap of the ages. It points to history. I agree with you that Huck Finn should not be presented to children because of the nature of the language. But you know, think of who the real hero in that book was.And I was not equating it in any way with any holy book.

Inlove, you have a life that is GLOURIOUIS.
To be able to cook diner is proof engouh.
GOD BLESS

Originally Posted by InLove

I gotta go cook some dinner, and I'm not sure that I have said things very well here. But I thought I should make an attempt. After all, I did open that can of worms, didn't I? (Not for dinner, you understand.)

NO OFINSE TAKEN

[YO-ELEVEN-11]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Chris,

I just can't seem to bring myself to considering God as "erotic" in display. That's all. I never said pictures of such should not be presented, only that I found the one present by Yo, to be, disturbing. That's all.

I'm not going to change my thinking on it, but ne're did I say get rid of it. I simply expressed my own damn opinion on something...

v/r

Q

Q," Erotic " is a term resvered for the eye beholer.
GOd BLESS

You express your opinon and that is what I was looking for,

[wil]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Really wil...A muslim fanatic declares death to all who defame Muhammad?

Gee, perhaps we should declare death to all who threaten our very existence...no? Not politically correct I suppose.

The question is why do why draw conclusions on the fanatics?

Christian fanatics KKK burn crosses, hang innocents because of their race and religion....surely you don't want to be put in that barrel, just because they quote from the same book?

More than one 'Christian' has expressed the solution to the 'problem' is to drop a nuke and turn the whole area to glass. And the nerve of them to have our oil under thier soil.

We need to start using the same lens on ourselves that we so glorioiusly point at others.

Do we know what wanted dead or alive means...and how does that differ? Are we not trying to elimnate our perceived 'infidels'?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by wil

The question is why do why draw conclusions on the fanatics?

Christian fanatics KKK burn crosses, hang innocents because of their race and religion....surely you don't want to be put in that barrel, just because they quote from the same book?

More than one 'Christian' has expressed the solution to the 'problem' is to drop a nuke and turn the whole area to glass. And the nerve of them to have our oil under thier soil.

We need to start using the same lens on ourselves that we so glorioiusly point at others.

Do we know what wanted dead or alive means...and how does that differ? Are we not trying to elimnate our perceived 'infidels'?

Maybe it is because we seem to be about 1000 years ahead of some concerning fanaticism and putting it under wraps...

Frankly I fail to see the "impact" other fanatics have world wide over what we are seeing world wide today by a particular group of self righteous religious liars (just like the KKK, they can't even follow the truth of their own holy book, but just make up the rules that suit them, for their own power and benefit). But unlike the KKK, they have taken it "world wide", and intend to go even more wide spread.

I personally am not trying to eliminate anyone I think is stupid for death or on a power kick...just want to keep them away from my family and my community, and my country.

By the way, the term "infidel" includes...you and yours too as far as they're concerned...

v/r

Q

[cavalier]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Maybe it is because we seem to be about 1000 years ahead of some concerning fanaticism and putting it under wraps...

Just a thought, after centuries of going to new territories and forcing people to convert to Christianity, after becomming the world's most powerful religion, does Christianity need to be as fanatical now?

[InLove]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Believe it or not, in an Admiral's office...just a few years ago.

I had a feeling....if I go sailing, I want to sail with One who can calm a nasty storm, or when necessary, show me the way through it.

[InLove]

Originally Posted by YO-ELEVEN-11

Inlove, you have a life that is GLOURIOUIS.
To be able to cook diner is proof engouh.
GOD BLESS

Isn't it amazing, YO, how much we find in literature and life concerning "dinner"? I mean, hungry people have to set aside differences and misunderstandings in order to share a meal. Lots of forgiveness around the dinner table--that is, if we are to have nourishment.

I have spent more than a few months of my lifetime in the kitchen (often barefoot and pregnant), but it never kept me from exploring the woods when no one but GOD, whatever "He" looks like, was watching. <----Do you think GOD ever wears sunglasses?

InPeace,
InLove