Is Ethics just for the lower classes?

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

The more aware I have become the faster I have seen cause and effect happen, I don't buy into the belief that it is all carried into the next lifetime, I and others are witnessing the boomerang effect happening very fast these days.

Just look at Blair for example here he is with a heart condition, metaphysically this is too do with unforgiveness/anti-love and/or buried anger. A good scientific link for the research papers are on www.heartmath.org He also has a daughter who tried to commit suicide recently (all hushed up).

So while the world is getting big wake up calls so is Mr Blair in his own personal life, but yet will he listen to them?

But that is very much a part of my point above - Tony Blair has been involved in supporting a war, and supplying troops for that war, which is claimed to have cost thousands of civilian lives.

Is Blair getting a slight irregular heartbeat therefore an actual punishment for that? Is he actually receiving some form of "Divine Punishment"? If so, it doesn't look like a very proportionate response in the slightest - or any other form of justice of punishment applied in the slightest.

[Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine]

Let's carry that argument one step further: if Tony Blair has an irregular heartbeat due to his supporting sending British troups to Iraq, then why isn't Dubbya and Co. comatose or dead for instigating the invasion?

Sorry.

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

[Sacredstar]

Dear Phyllis

Allow me to clarify further the root cause of Blair's condition is not that he chose to go to war, his choices are the effect of the root cause. Ill-health and disease in most cases is created by the self.

So the core issues for Blair are either anger, anti-love or unforgiveness and only he knows what the root cause of this is although a self development facilitator like myself could help him to access those root causes.

So we have cause and effect multi-dimensionally, wounded leaders that co-create further wounds in the world and as they do so they become more sick in more ways then one.

For instance all the criminals that I have worked with were all abused as children either mentally, emotionally, physically or sexually they then went on to abuse others, the ripple in the pond.

Through history we have returned conflict with war, we have searched for peace but yet we have not put the effort into resolving the real root causes of war that is within human consciousness.

Wars and conflict will continue in my experience until we heal the root causes of control and domination.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[Sacredstar]

Dear Brian

Apologies I only just viewed your post, there is no divine punishment in my domain. We co-create our own reality in this life time and the one beyond.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[I, Brian]

It's alright - I'm simply pushing for discussion on the topic - but I think I should be better off starting a new topic on that.