Is Ethics just for the lower classes?

[Abogado del Diablo]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Abogado

But very interesting that scientists are now proving that water holds memory, we also know that if we do not drink enough water the toxins do not leave the lungs we are also aware of the importance of water to the kidneys. Hence why people get kidney problems, the kidneys are the shen of who we are, in Tai Chi they say it holds the spirit of who we are.

Is this a response to something I wrote? I'm not sure I see where enemas fit in to any of this.

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

I did not begin to seriously look at water until divine mother asked me to bless the waters. My feeling is that this scripture has held many truths that are now being revealed by science. The message is more important to me then the messenger, or its acceptance by scholars for they all have their own bias.

If its content rings of Truth for you, so be it. My sole point is that there is no reason to believe that it is what it purports to be. It was in all likelihood originally written by a purveyor alternative "health" products and philosophies in 1937 and modified and republished in its current form in 1977.

[Sacredstar]

Dear Abogado

May I ask have you read all 4 parts of the Gospel of Peace?

being love

Sacredstar

[Abogado del Diablo]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Abogado

May I ask have you read all 4 parts of the Gospel of Peace?

being love

Sacredstar

I have read the first three books.

Have you read "Twilight of the Idols"?

[Sacredstar]

Dear Adogado

No I haven't, I am not ignoring anyone's questions there are just so many I do not know where to start Big smiles!

But the one about GOD abusing GOD, well my truth is that there is a difference between divine will and human will, because most people do not listen to the divine self e.g. the soul's wisdom. Most people operate from lower levels of consciousness so the aim in my paid work is to help people to heal their needs and human desires, so that they can move their energy into their hearts. In so doing they are able to operate from the heart of the soul's wisdom.

Ethics is a very important one, so I thank you all for your contributions and Brian for starting the thread, because I can assure you I have not worked it all out yet on this front. There is such a thin line we walk and yet humanity appears to have stepped well over the boundaries of divine creation.

For instance Alexa mentioned earlier on the thread about cloning animals and if we did not do this they would be extinct! From my perspective this is just like the medical profession, providing a solution and a band aid for the problem, instead of resolving the root cause of why the animals are becoming extinct. For instance the frogs are dying on mass in the rain forests, these frogs have lived through every earth change for 200 million years (say the scientists) but yet they are not living through this earth change. This is showing me that something is seriously wrong, humanity are not listening, not seeing, not realising the destruction they are co-creating on this planet. The planet will survive if we don't blow it up, but yet will the current day civilisations? That is the the choice I feel we face. Civilisations have died off before so it would not be the first time.

Millennium prophecy 2/3rd's of the world population will cease to walk the earth.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[Abogado del Diablo]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Adogado

But the one about GOD abusing GOD, well my truth is that there is a difference between divine will and human will, because most people do not listen to the divine self e.g. the soul's wisdom. Most people operate from lower levels of consciousness so the aim in my paid work is to help people to heal their needs and human desires, so that they can move their energy into their hearts. In so doing they are able to operate from the heart of the soul's wisdom.

So are humans in the "whole" or are they not?

The True liberation is in experiencing that there is nothing but the whole.

And that can be experienced for free by those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

[Abogado del Diablo]

Sacredstar,

Do you perceive the possibility that you are rejecting a false dualism only to replace it with another one? Or that the replacement is, when subjected to close scrutiny, a rephrasing of the very false dualism you've rejected?

[Sacredstar]

Dear Abogado

Planet Earth is the best Academy in the cosmos, my truth is that we are spiritual beings having a human experience, life on planet earth is a rite of passage through various initiations. It is only through alignment of both energies, the two become one which you kindly quote from the Gospel of Thomas the other day. The male and feminine energies to come into alignment they become one, human and divine come into alignment, two become one. Through this integration we are able to realise our wholeness and oneness with the creator. I have written an article on this if you are interested to view.

An analogy from a published article 'Secret of Ascension and the Holy Grail.

In present day this analogy may help you to integrate this knowledge. When your human will is in control you have your hands on the wheel of the car, when you surrender your heart to GOD and align your will with GOD’s will then you don’t need the car anymore!

You freely walk in the light! You can then see the signposts, as if for the very first time, a picture emerges of that which no longer serves you, unhealthy situations drift away like the clouds leaving a blue sky, and your vision becomes sheer with clarity. When you surrender your heart and implement the wisdom of self discipline you are able to walk on the middle path directly in oneness with the source. Both feminine and masculine energies are balanced and this determines the value of the third resulting in completion of at-one-ment. ©2003Sacredstar



Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[Abogado del Diablo]

We are all part of the whole whether we recognize it or not. Finding liberation in peace is in seeing and experiencing this Oneness rather than denying it by elevating the self (ego) over the whole. Not that either is "wrong."

It is what it is.

[Sacredstar]

well this is where we differ Abogado yes we are all part of the whole of group consciousness and ego is expressing GOD omnipotence so part of the whole too!

But yet each and everyone is a unique individual and it is human will that chooses to control and dominate nature itself not divine will of each soul.
So humanity is still learning why they are here......

Being love

Sacredstar

[Abogado del Diablo]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

well this is where we differ Abogado yes we are all part of the whole of group consciousness and ego is expressing GOD omnipotence so part of the whole too!

I agree that ego is part of the whole too. As far as "expressing GOD omnipotence" I would respond that Gottschalk also defines normalcy by invigoration.

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

But yet each and everyone is a unique individual and it is human will that chooses to control and dominate nature itself not divine will of each soul.

The two are one.

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

So humanity is still learning why they are here......

There is nothing to learn except that there is nothing to learn.

[alexa]

You cannot satisfy your ego and God in the same time.

I've never heard about an Essence Minister. What is it ? From your posts, I am inclined to believe you mix religions and spirituality and science all togheter. Forgive my ignorance, but I try to understand your messages.

[alexa]

Oh, Abogado you are quicker than me. My previous message is for Sacredstar. This is to avoid any confusion.

[Abogado del Diablo]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Abogado

It is only through alignment of both energies, the two become one which you kindly quote from the Gospel of Thomas the other day. The male and feminine energies to come into alignment they become one, human and divine come into alignment, two become one.

You do understand that is metaphorical, right?

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Abogado del Diablo

Just an aside, one of its more interesting additions to the canon is the requirement that christians administer enemas to themselves to enter God's kingdom. From Book II:

This is really more than I wanted to know.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

I watched a video from Frank Arjava Petter who was married to a Japanese lady for many years, and he said that
in this part of the world they do not think the way we do, they are unable to separate the heart from the head. I would be interesting in your view of this bearing in mind your experiences with your own beautiful children.

Please be very careful here Sacredstar. I don't think you mean to imply that a child's race has something to do with the development of her soul.

Edit: Perhaps you mean that the experience of being in Chinese culture for the first months of their lives has left an impression that they still carry with them?

GOD bless you

God has.

for all that you do for them.

But not for anything that I have done.

Peace