InLove

[Faithfulservant]

I wanted to give a personal tribute to her because I loved her very much she was very wise and God taught me through her.. I didnt know where to post this and I finally decided to do it here because this is where I knew her.

I wanted to post a conversation she and I had in PM's because this is where she taught me its fitting because spiritually she was my mother in faith.

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant
Inlove you dont believe Jesus is God? I wanted to ask you but I didnt want to ask you openly because it is a very personal question. You have been in my prayers a lot in the past so I feel towards you differently than others. Please understand that this is important to me and to some people its not. you know what I mean right?

Donna

Hi Donna

Oh, yes--I do believe that Christ is God--one aspect of God, who brought Himself to us in the form of the man Jesus of Nazareth so to share in our humanity and to offer himself for us so we might have life and reconciliation with and in the Father--also God. The most important aspect of God, to me, (and I believe the Bible tells me this) is the Holy Spirit--and this is what I think we limit. We cannot know all the workings of this Great Spirit of God.

I am glad you messaged me, Donna, because it gives me a chance to say to you in private that I know we often sound so different from one another in the way we present our beliefs, and there are a couple of things we don't agree on. But as you once pointed out to me, things would be awfully boring if God had created us all just alike. We all read and speak and process information in at least slightly varied ways, even when led in the Spirit! We all share in this existence, but our individual experiences are essentially ours alone. I praise God that He knows us individually, and loves and guides us each one in this, and loves us all.

I know it may seem to you that I am a "wishy-washy" kind of Christian. But I also have a feeling that you know in your heart how I love Christ. It's just that I think that even though there are so many similarities between us (even our location!), we are still cut from a little bit different cultural cloth, and the way in which He leads me is a little bit different. I would not be good in the pulpit! I would be better in the position of a diplomat to a foreign congregation or something like that--and then I should probably stick to the music! We all have our jobs--different parts and functions of The Body. This is why I avoid debating with you and Dor most of the time. It really will all work out in the end. This I know.

Well, I am just rambling on and on, aren't I? That is what happens when you get old like me. Hehe--well, I am only 49, but this old world and the suffering therein has taken a toll that is beginning to really show. I see from your recent posts that you understand about suffering. Different suffering than mine, but suffering nonetheless. You are a brave soul, and I keep you in my prayers and think of you often. Please continue to lift me up as well. Even when we disagree? I know you will.

InPeace,
InLove
Debbie

Hi Again, Donna--

I was thinking after I wrote my response to your question-- If you will point out to me what it is I wrote that appears to suggest that I don't see Christ in God, I will consider trying to rectify that in public.

Deb

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant
You said that you do not pray to Jesus. Oh you can pray to Him.. I dont know where you learned differently but the word is very clear on it. You can call out to Him which is a prayer.. you are supposed to fellowship with Him and how do you do that if you cannot pray to Him.

How can you have a close walk with Him if you cannot fellowship with Him? We are to do everything in His name because we are supposed to do ALL things unto the Lord. The scripture I believe you are basing this on is one of many many scriptures.. that point this out.

Are you a universalist? Do you not believe that The Father Son and Spirit are 3 seperate people?

Do you not believe the bible?

I might be in err in assuming that you believed these things. I am not judgemental and I think people misunderstand me and dor. We walk in Jesus Christ and we do all things in love and its hard to get that through text.. you know what I mean? Its not my style to come across lovey like you do but I am lol because thats Christ in me.

Love
Me

Hi--

Donna, I believe that The Father, The Son, and the Spirit are all aspects of One God. I do not know what a universalist really is, because there seems to be several different definitions.

As far as praying to Christ goes--yes, we talk. All the time. But everyone is not able to actualize what they see as inappropriate informality with God. It has to do a great deal with their background and experience. In the meantime, it doesn't mean that it isn't on their hearts. This is what God looks at, the heart. And I trust He will see to it.

You are right. Time is short. Sometimes I think it is much shorter than anyone realizes. I know it is for me. And all I know to do is follow the Christ who has been with me through it all. I share His Message the only way I know how, and that is what He tells me.

I love you. I hope I am clearing up some misunderstanding rather than adding to it!

Me, too.

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant
You are awesome and know that if you proceed me I will soon see you.. and we will see each other face to face in our glorious new bodies void of corruption as sisters.

I do love you and I see Christs love in you..

Its this time that he draws us close so we can see His face and it is a beautiful thing to behold isnt it.

He is so good.

I'm countin' on it! Thanks, Donna.

I learned from this that she and I werent so different as I had thought.. I learned that our difference was only in how we expressed ourselves in our beliefs.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

I wanted to give a personal tribute to her because I loved her very much she was very wise and God taught me through her.. I didnt know where to post this and I finally decided to do it here because this is where I knew her.

I wanted to post a conversation she and I had in PM's because this is where she taught me its fitting because spiritually she was my mother in faith.

I learned from this that she and I werent so different as I had thought.. I learned that our difference was only in how we expressed ourselves in our beliefs.

But for want of a common language, we would all be allies and friends...

[path_of_one]

Thanks for posting this Donna. It had me in tears.

Q, would that we all could get together and give each other a big hug, just practice Christ's love and see it in each other rather than having to mediate it through words. The difficulty lies in the language, as you say...

Often, though we all have slightly different beliefs and sometimes even debate , I can feel the love in this group and I just wish I could reach out through the screen and give somebody a hug and sit with them in silence, fellowshipping and being mutually in God's presence...

[flowperson]

Donna...Thank you so much for sharing your personal moments with that great soul who has left us. There's a very large hole in my heart right now.
Bless you and yours.

flow....

[wil]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

Thanks for posting this Donna. It had me in tears.

Q, would that we all could get together and give each other a big hug, just practice Christ's love and see it in each other rather than having to mediate it through words. ...

ditto on both sections, if we all practiced whatever texts/prophets we followed we'd all be so much better off.

Donna and Deb are right, we all aren't so far apart, we just get caught up on nuance and that darn wish to be right.

Today I had to stop as I was rolling thru flashcards with my kids. We came across the word amoroso, in love, in spanish. It stopped me in my tracks at its beauty, and my kids couldn't contemplate why even after I explained.

Wonderful to see you stop back in Donna, missed the discourse with you and yours.

[pattimax]

I was away for much of December. I had no idea. A beautiful tribute for a beautiful person.