Indigos and Crystals

[earl]

Hey Path, just noticed for location your avatar notes "soon to be Seattle." Whatcha going to be doing there? Hope the move goes/has gone smooth. earl

[dauer]

Marietta,

If you are ok with mind control and it is your free will choice to give your power over to another (in this case society) this is your free will choice and I respect that, however it is not mine nor is it the choice of many others.

You can't avoid being conditioned. In some cases you can determine what you'll be conditioned by, and in some cases you'll reject society's conditioning for something worse. For example:

I simply do not agree. A good sample of what social mind control has created is kids who bring guns to school and shoot their playmates.

That's a rejection of society's mind control which requires that everyone be good little droogies. Since society's mind control was rejected, they searched for a surrogate, as you have, because most people like to have easy answers so they don't have to think for themselves. It's just the rejection of one dogma for another.

On education we're going to have to agree to disagree. Whether it's the mother or the school system teaching the children, they're still being submitted to the same type of conditioning, the same type of mind-control as you put it. The only difference is what detergent their minds will be washed with. Maybe when they get older they'll realize they drank the kool-aide, but drinking it isn't avoidable for someone who wants to be able to integrate into society.

No but they did add rules to the Hebrew language that were not supposed to be part of the language. There are only supposed to be 10 rules ever applied to the Hebrew language, called the ten utterances (the ten commandments). These new rules change they way in which people translate or simply read the Hebrew language. Then Hermeneutic were applied to the translation of the language making it a new language all together.

The council of nicea didn't effect the Jewish text at all. The masorites adding notation did, but that's a non-issue. I don't believe in finite revelation. All scripture is a product of man from beginning to end. I'm more interested in what the myths and teachings we pass on say about us, what we might be projecting onto the text. That is how I used the passage quoted. If you disagree with my interpretation then so be it, but what we've gotten into regarding authenticity is neither here nor there.

My reply: Sure they are their own personal little gods of their personal playground (reality field). We should all be creating our own reality in which to experience what it is we need to grow into well developed beings.

It's only egocentrism which causes them to believe they're gods. We can't create our own reality, only change our subjective experience of it. Once you've claimed we can actually create our own reality you've taken the leap from science to dogma. Quantum physics does not say that whatever we will about will come about.

Babies cry because they still use telepathy to communicate and when nobody replies they get frustrates and begin to cry. We demand that they use words to communicate and then as soon as they start talking they shut down their ability to communicate via telepathy.

I don't like kool-aide. It's sugary and artificial.

My reply: And which set of rules should be enforced mine or yours? Nobody has a right to say that their beliefs are superior to another persons set of beliefs or rules.

I'm agnostic and a relativist. I don't maintain beliefs about what is right and wrong. Those are determined by individual societies in order that they can operate cohesively. It's not about superiority. It's about locality. I do have ideas about what is right and wrong, but they still must by and large conform to society. We can even get more specific with locality because there are international laws and then each nation has its own, each state or province, each city, individual societies within those cities, families, between two people and then within ourselves. My father used to allow me to have a sip of his beer when I was very little, which is illegal in the US, and for that reason he would not have done so publically. Ethics are relative.

It takes a whole lot to wake up enough once mind controlled to use your mind for yourself to know your true desire. So therefore those who are under mind control do not go against their controller. That's the beauty of mind control (at least to the controllers).

And that same problem arises when it's the parents conditioning their children. It doesn't matter where it comes from. It is almost unavoidable. Those who avoid it we tend to consider mentally ill like the schyzophrenics.

as stated above once mind controlled most do not rebel against the programming and those that think they are rebelling are doing so according to their programing.

Yes, that's what I mentioned earlier, substituting one dogma for another, like fundamentalist christians who become atheists and never let go of absolutism, or those who give up organized religion for new age and do the same.

Any time one person demands that another does what they want, they person doing the demanding is taking the free will of the other person away by "Demanding/Making" them do what he wants done. Negating what they other person wants.

I disagree.

I'm not sure what you are saying with this statement. Could you please elaborate.

I'm saying that you're just spewing dogma. It's not going to convince me any more than a Christian telling me that Jesus rose from his grave or an Orthodox Jew telling me that the written and oral Torahs were received on mount sinai from G!d and therefore the mitzvot are fully binding on all Jews whether they accept them as binding or not.

I respect you free will choice in giving your mind over to the mind control paradigm of society but I do not respect those who would try to take control of my mind because I do not want others to control of me. I am in the process of taking my power back along with the responsibility for my own beingness.
Blessings to you along your life journey in whatever manner YOU CHOSE to take it.

But that's the thing. You have freely given yourself over to the mind control you so denigrate by falling from one absolutism into another. I on the other hand remain agnostic, conforming as necessary yet aware of my actions when I do so and aware of my own ignorance. I tend to approach people on their own terms. You speak in the language of absolutist dogma and so I return it to you in kind, all the while pointing out the absolutism of your own thinking. As I believe I said before, I'm hardly a conformist. Most consider me to be quite radical even as on the surface I can at times appear quite traditional. There's a big difference between self-aware, self-critical radicalism and convincing yourself that you've found an absolute Truth. Your absolutism no different than any other form of fundamentalism. Certainly you have your mythos and cosmology and ingrained beliefs that go far beyond what any credible science has ever established.

[flowperson]

Hi Earl:

Thanks so much for the study by Shari Cohn... she is one smart and thorough lady. I'd have to go with her analysis that the autosomal dominant inheritance pattern that she highlighted in her study is the one that functions in the world, and that it does also cover artistic talent inheritance. Although, I am somewhat in disagreement as to her descriptions of "second sight" involving death rituals. Maybe that's because so much of her research was in Celtic family groupings.

I'm pretty sure Italian families have a lot of this sort of thing also since the barbarians from central Europe were from where the Celts originated. I'm sure that when the Roman Empire was overrun by them, they left plenty of genetic material behind that's still functioning.

Thanks again !

flow....

[path_of_one]

Originally Posted by earl

Hey Path, just noticed for location your avatar notes "soon to be Seattle." Whatcha going to be doing there? Hope the move goes/has gone smooth. earl

I move next Thursday (8/30). We'll be (hopefully) permanently relocating. My husband has a partnership in a new construction company and I just transferred with my current company to that region's office. I'm looking forward to the rain... I really love rain and it's far too dry here in southern California. I think I'll miss the multiculturalism, though, and the high density of just plain interesting (strange?) people you meet in the LA area.

[earl]

If you want strange, there's always us. earl

[Pathless]

New Era of Peace & Oneness of Humanity

There has come a time where all spiritual beings are aware and awakening to the light of this new era of peace. In this hour of time, this second on the clock of eons it is but an instant in the eternity of time. The truth of this moment is to listen within for the messages that bring oneness to humanity. Those who watch and live among you are aware now is the point of decision. It is the point in the movement of time where the decision is made to bring peace or war. It is the point of revolution.

History is replete with instances of revolution that has changed regimes and opened doors of innovation and revelation. The days of fall are such times and as you awaken to the higher light you are also called by the galactic heart. The Indigo revolution is of the young lions who walk through the gate of the heart and speak with the mind of oneness. Expect that this revolution will be manifest in a manner unexpected by the powers of the old ones. Expect that the transformation will be an inner understanding that the awakening is a shift of consciousness to see and be the shining ones. You are given this gift and the power to create the golden age in manifestation as you believe so shall it be.

Religion, government, society and the state will fall into disarray while community, family, friends and truth will become one and all. Conflict will not become the avenue of transformation. Aggression and control is unable to operate without the support of the holders of the keys and the codes. The Indigos have the keys and the Teacher of Light bring the world the code of the transmutation for the Galactic Uprising.

Each being in the Family of Light is in a position, place and hold galactic energy that is interconnected through the grid work or earth. As Teachers of your cause it is agreed to be synchronously manifested by the astrological timings. No leader is to come forth for from the bottom of the flock and within the unified mind of the whole each one knows the way and moves with the graceful balanced pattern.

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Save us is the cry of the citizen. Share with us the programs you have written. Take us through the night of darkness. Bring us to the other side. This is the call that comes to your heart as you have begun to awaken to your inner teachers. Layers of worlds and dimensions are shared as you have found your words to be remembered. The meaning of each of your experiences now does not give you doubt as the voice from with agrees with the reason you live and grow.

You ask why yet understand before it is said that you have always known you would become part of this revolution. Not one alone but millions from within know the inner dimensions and the weaknesses of the systems. When the anger rises after the depression ceases, when the rage overcomes your will and your senses, when hope becomes courage and power becomes passion then journey through the tunnel and command destiny.

Watch for the moment when the beast asks for freedom to crush evil that is nothing but a lie. Look at the masses sleep in their tent cities and walk restless streets at night with hunger in their bellies. Wait for the timing when the fat withers, when the soul of the nation is broken and cold. Stand by the gateway of the central control systems gathered in silence and hidden behind doors. Keys of the kingdom you hold in your memory where courage has fallen and the kings are all gone. Steady in resolve to turn away from television, to end mind control and to speak with reason.

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Carry forth your body, mind and spirit as the soul so you may hear the goddess call to make home. In earths’ request of the ageless human creation the sun shines as a beacon for the galactic uprising. The hour has passed and the decision has been made by the honor of your heart, soul and mind. Truth has been trampled and not forgiven so the way forward is the plan of revolution.

So be your way ahead safe and silent. Hold to your peace within of the kindness of spirit.
Guidance on the path is marked by your footsteps. Experience the awakened self speak forth the instructions.

Your dharma was chosen before this life as the chart you are born with has a destined alliance. The ascended masters have called upon your system knowledge to channel a new direction for the civilization and creation. In devotion and single-minded love use your intuition and strength to hold to truth and balance. Let your being merge and integrate in the highest frequencies of mind and ethical considerations to re-align the technological foundations and operating systems with the transmuting flame of love that shines and calls forth the Galactic Uprising.

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by Marietta

I don't agree that there is a need for children to attend school, where most of the mind control takes place. It is the place of the mother to teach her children what she feels is important for them.

Mother and father... why leave out daddy? What, he's got to put on a necktie noose and go work at the banks? No no. At least not this daddy.

Originally Posted by Marietta

My reply: Sure they are their own personal little gods of their personal playground (reality field). We should all be creating our own reality in which to experience what it is we need to grow into well developed beings.

Yay!! It makes sense! Thanks. In my own personal history, I am convinced that I suffered a lot of needless damage starting with pre-school and continuing all through public education. But maybe I am just a spoiled prick.

I'm not. I'm a nice guy with a lot to offer.

The thoughts of an Indigo,
P.

[Marietta]

Greetings Pathless, Did this post come from the Premier web site? It sounds like a quote from the Gold Ring.
The purpose of getting people to align their heart chackra with that of the Galactic heart chackra is to use the energy of the heart to manipulate the grids. A major attack was done to the grids on July 7 and 17, of this year 2007. Are you aware of this?
Love and Light, Marietta

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by Marietta

Greetings Pathless, Did this post come from the Premier web site? It sounds like a quote from the Gold Ring.
The purpose of getting people to align their heart chackra with that of the Galactic heart chackra is to use the energy of the heart to manipulate the grids. A major attack was done to the grids on July 7 and 17, of this year 2007. Are you aware of this?
Love and Light, Marietta

Yes, Marietta, I did gank that passage from the Gold Ring.

No I wasn't aware of any attack, and am only vaguely aware of a grid presence. Would you mind elaborating?

[Marietta]

Pathless, I'm not sure what your question is? Please make your question more to the point so I know how to address it.
Love and Light, Marietta

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by Marietta

Pathless, I'm not sure what your question is? Please make your question more to the point so I know how to address it.
Love and Light, Marietta

Marietta, I am wondering if you can share some details about the grids--what they are, where they are (if anywhere), how a person may be aware of them, and what this attack of July 7th and 17th was about.

Thanks,
Pathless

[Marietta]

Pathless,

The organic interdimensional core energy systems of a planet, along with the inherent portals, vortices, Ley Lines and Star Gates, are known as the Planetary Templar Complex. At a universal level this interdimensional energy system is called Universal Templar Complex. The Planetary Templar Complex includes the natural Thermo-radionic, Photo-sonic and Electromagnetic functions of the planet's organic energy system.
The mathematical and geometrical structure of the Universal, Planetary and Personal Templar Complex includes Kathara Grids, Shields, Seals, etc., as well as many other energetic structures. The organic energy system of a planet includes the realities of the interdimensional Time Portal and Dimensional Lock Systems, the natural network of Portals and Star Gates (or Signets) through which a planet is connected to many other interstellar, interdimensional, space-time systems.
Universal Life Force Currents from the 15-Dimensional Spectrum continually circulate throughout the Planetary Templar Complex system, holding the planet in manifest matter form. Universal Energy or Life Force Currents flow through Earth's Templar via the organic energy conduits of natural Planetary Merkaba Fields.

Love and Light, Marietta

[Pathless]

Marietta,

I am quite dumbfounded by your response. Many big, unfamiliar words and phrases have been used, which to the lay ear sound like gibberish. The response brings up more questions than answers, and I need to familiarize myself with things like Kathara Grids before I can give you any other response than "Huh wha--? Come again?"

Thanks for the reply.

Pathless

[Marietta]

Pathless, The Keylontic Dictionary is a very good place to start. You can also go to the azuritepress.com web site for some articles that may help.
Love and Light, Marietta