Hurrican is God's work

[Curios Mike]

Their are some that say it is actually on the rise! The global warming is not totaly our fualt... WHen i was saying this I was taking a shot at all those in europe who are laughing at us and saying we deserve this becuase we polute.I guess thats becuase of the KYoto or what ever it is the U.N. would like us to do. Once this happened More jobs will be lost and guess who will get the blame for this?????? Not that I"m a bu****e, but it got old when they kept bashing clinton as well as it is now with Bush! Which will be to blame becuase of cafta also. As well as clinton for nafta....but thats another topic for another time.

Anyways.....
Solar contribution to 'global warming' predicted to decrease
Granted I'm no scientist, but how can you predict flames from a fire? And their for how do we know that the flares from the son is not makeing the Oceans Temp hotter the past few years. Which Scientist do u believe they seem to argu as much as religous scholars.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Curios Mike

Their are some that say it is actually on the rise! The global warming is not totaly our fualt... WHen i was saying this I was taking a shot at all those in europe who are laughing at us and saying we deserve this becuase we polute.I guess thats becuase of the KYoto or what ever it is the U.N. would like us to do. Once this happened More jobs will be lost and guess who will get the blame for this?????? Not that I"m a bu****e, but it got old when they kept bashing clinton as well as it is now with Bush! Which will be to blame becuase of cafta also. As well as clinton for nafta....but thats another topic for another time.

Anyways.....
Solar contribution to 'global warming' predicted to decrease
Granted I'm no scientist, but how can you predict flames from a fire? And their for how do we know that the flares from the son is not makeing the Oceans Temp hotter the past few years. Which Scientist do u believe they seem to argu as much as religous scholars.

According to statistical analysis, from 1985-1995, the oceans were a few degrees cooler, hence the lack of Hurricanes and such. From 1996-2004 the seas have been a few degrees warmer, so more hurricanes. Prior to 1985, the seas were warmer, and ten years before that they were cooler. These cooler/warmer trends happen to coincide with vigorous solar activity, or lack of...

Venus and Mars also experience temperature changes during the same cycles of solar activity.

I'm not saying that we aren't contributing to the climate changes, but we are not the sole source, nor are we the major infleuence.

Carbon dioxide, for example, is still 1% or less than of all the gasses within our atmosphere. Nitrogen is at 78% and oxygen is at 19-21%.

If anything. Extra Carbon dioxide should cause the green foliage to absolutely thrive, and kick out even higher amounts of oxygen (which isn't happening).

Winters should be getting warmer (they're getting colder). Our atmosphere should be showing a thickening, due to the extra gases being produced (it is not). Atmospheric pressure at sea level should be higher than 14.7 PSI (it is not).

Automobiles produce Ozone (O3), through catalytic converters, and have done so for two decades. Yet the ozone layer is still thinning.

I suspect that climate changes are cyclic, and not man made.

As far as Europe's disdain for the United States, well, that has been since the US's inception. The US afterall is the "garbage" that the Europeans sent from their shores.

What they forgot was that "Coal" under pressure produces diamonds...

Man, builds a city in a "fish bowl" (below sea level), then shores up levies with substandard quality from the start, nature takes its course and people complain, because their ramparts did not withstand the force of nature?

Galveston Island, was wiped out 105 years ago by a hurricane. So they decided to build a wall made of granite, not concrete and free stone. They did it right, and spared no expense. Rita blew through Galveston and nada, no damage to really speak of. Louisiana got the back wash of Rita, and it is under water again. It did not even get the brunt of the blast...

Louisiana expected the federal government to maintain it's levies, and therefore provided no local funds to upgrade its protection...and paid a terrible price.

Texas took care of itself, and Louisiana, expected others to take care of it.

The damage is not God's work, it is man's lack of preperation.

v/r

Q

[smkolins]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

The damage is not God's work, it is man's lack of preperation.

I don't wholly disagree but lack of following the guidance of wisdom, of placing proper emphasis on understanding, brings about a series of failings in relation to the needs. This is clearly part of the situation.

But God could test our condition as well. We think we are satisfied, and our condition is revealed to us.

[Kaldayen]

Originally Posted by Quahom

I'm not saying that we aren't contributing to the climate changes, but we are not the sole source, nor are we the major infleuence.

[...]

The damage is not God's work, it is man's lack of preperation.

What percentage is humanity's fault is difficult to judge. Considering that some scientific studies are paid by oil companies and friends to say whatever they want to say, I'd personally believe that we are the major influence. Otherwise, I agree with you on the second part. We just don't take the same path for the same conclusion concerning this topic.

But the fact that some people in the US never heard about [KYoto or what ever it is the U.N. would like [you] to do] (sic), or don't know what it approximately is, is disturbing to me... I guess that's for another thread.
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Kal

[BlaznFattyz]

i would not isolate one hurricane and base your entire reasoning of gods vengeance or anger on it. because here in the u.s. a hurricane does destruction for those leaving near the water, but it also will create jobs in reconstruction and together as a nation we come together to help and pray. so the amount of physical destruction it caused is offset by all the good that spiritually comes out of it. but if you look at it on a global scale and see lots of hurricanes, earthquakes and other natural disasters throughout the entire world pick up pace in a small amount of time, you might have to look at the bigger picture which is a sign of end times, and not so much an individual judgement, but more of a random act prophesized to happen all over the globe.

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

I'm not saying that we aren't contributing to the climate changes, but we are not the sole source, nor are we the major infleuence.

This is a big part of the problem - we've had international conferences on climate explicitly state that humanity is having an adverse affect on the climate, and will continue to do so until we curb our emissions.

However, the US response has been to politicise the issue and claim that international science has somehow been usurped by angry leftist environmentalists.

It's hard not to see oil dollars at work in the process of "teaching" Americans that the European attitude to climate change is irresponsible.

As for predictions of effects from climate change - depends upon the area involved, but Europe has been warned to expect more severe and frequent rain leading to pronounced local flooding. I believe the US has been warned to expect more hurricanes and more powerful ones at that.

More here:
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...climate-change