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09-17-2005, 09:31 AM
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
I'm not using this as a reason to proove how bad New orleans was by no means..... But can anyone explain to me why all the shootings, and killings. They where some that was shooting at the helocopters trying to rescue people. And we even had one here in Georgia. Iledgidly this guy was from New Orleans... He raped some woman 2 weeks ago, then tuesday of this weeks beat another woman and jumped in her car with her in it drove into a cement truck (which Killed this 30 year old mother) Then when a man followed and asked him to stop he pulled a gun on the man who followed, but the man that followed them had his gun and shot the guy (iledgidly from new orleans) 3 times and killed him. Can anybody explain to me what the *%&^$$ is wrong with people? U know I can understand looting like for diapers, or nessesities, but what yah gonna do with a television without any electricity, What good did it do to shoot at the rescuers, or why did this 30 year old mom have to die..... This could have easily been my wife. She only lived a few miles down the road from me. This makes me so angry I cannot desccribe........ I dont understand why people have to be so stupid, and terrible to other people...........
I'll stop their, sorry you guys, but looking at what has happend sense.............. 
Last edited by Curios Mike; 09-17-2005 at 09:39 AM.
Reason: left soemthing out
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09-17-2005, 10:44 AM
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Prince Of Truth
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
The Hurricane is the work of the Goddess Nature  . She is the supreme ruler of the universe, but a force that is hard to control.
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09-17-2005, 09:08 PM
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Mod ~ Eastern Thought
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
fascinating.
really...
of course, i've heard that the hurricane and in fact all natural disasters are actually caused by the United States government, in particular George Bush.
Louis Farakkan says that Bush as a machine which can control the weather and he used it to destroy the levies because he doesn't like people with a darker pigmentation than his.
the tsunami was caused by an underground atomic warhead exploded in such a manner to cause a tsunami... by George Bush.
i hear, as well, that the Plague and HIV are also creations of the American Government.
one wonders if there was every any tradegy in the world before the arising of the American nation and George Bush?
i suppose that all the tropical storms aren't caused by God, unless they happen to kill humans in some areas which people are all prudish about. strange that it works like that.. but, when you reject science, all that can be left to explain the inexplicable is magic.
metta,
~v
p.s. should i have apologized up front?
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09-17-2005, 09:31 PM
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
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Originally Posted by Vajradhara
fascinating.
really...
~v
p.s. should i have apologized up front?
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no. it was funny & somewhat the truth! some things I have thought about for a long time, that will have me chuckling for awhile because i could not have said it any better.
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09-18-2005, 08:00 AM
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Creative Thinker
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central California
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
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Originally Posted by Chela
For those easily offended, look away, for I am about to present something terribly unpopular:
Earth is a living organism. Unfortunately, this organism is infected with a cancerous tumor. The name of this cancer is called humanity.
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I'm sorry, but I am offended, Chela. But more than that, I am saddened that you hate your own species so much.
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09-19-2005, 02:23 AM
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Psychological Janitor
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
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Originally Posted by littlemissattitude
I'm sorry, but I am offended, Chela. But more than that, I am saddened that you hate your own species so much.
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If you punish your child because of wrong action, and you say "My child was bad" then, by this type of thinking, you would hate your child. Do you think that any parent who inflicts a punishment upon a child is full of hate? Does a parent punish a child out of love or out of hate?
So, it is just silly to think like that, don't you agree? So, I want to be clear, hate was not my motivation to post that.
People can see how punishing a child because of incorrect behavior is easy to understand, however, they do not understand how or why God would punish them, they do not understand that karma is a form of the love of God.
People do not suffer like that for no reason. Everything has a cause. Massive suffering is karma, that is all.
Now, is humanity really a cancer? Yes, surely it is, but it is a psychological cancer, a psychological imbalance, that, as an effect provides social, economical, political, national, global, and even celestial unbalance. But of course, as the Fourth Nobel truth states, there is a way to cure this cancer, there is a method.
We can state the Four Nobel Truths in the following manner:
1 - There is an illness
2 - There is a cause(s) of illness
3 - There is a possibility of a cure of the illness
4 - There is a prescription i.e., what we need to do to bring about a cure
I was, out of the love for others, helping people to understand the First Nobel Truth, because one cannot cure what one does not accept exists!
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09-20-2005, 08:38 AM
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Creative Thinker
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
Well, I guess I just don't accept your premises then, Chela. So I suppose that there is no point in even discussing it any further. I most certainly do not believe that humanity is a cancer. I choose to see the good in humanity, and I choose to believe that there is more good than evil. I see that good manifested every day. I choose to see the possibilities in humanity.
I don't believe that God or anyone else sends hurricanes as a punishment or that Mom Nature sends them to "cure" anything.
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09-20-2005, 08:45 PM
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
lol Vaj.. theres a tropical storm Rita headed towards Texas which might turn into a hurricane.. Wonder why Bush would send it to his own state?
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09-20-2005, 10:17 PM
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Executive Member
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
& blame Bush for the snow storms & all power outages. & of course Bush starts all the forest fires.
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09-21-2005, 12:11 PM
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Where is the Love???
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
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Originally Posted by Vajradhara
the tsunami was caused by an underground atomic warhead exploded in such a manner to cause a tsunami... by George Bush.
i hear, as well, that the Plague and HIV are also creations of the American Government.
one wonders if there was every any tradegy in the world before the arising of the American nation and George Bush?
i suppose that all the tropical storms aren't caused by God, unless they happen to kill humans in some areas which people are all prudish about. strange that it works like that.. but, when you reject science, all that can be left to explain the inexplicable is magic.
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*clears his throat...*
Your tsunami theory... I won't even comment on APART from That is outrageous.
The plague was around centuries before the CIA, so please go figure.... I have heard HIV was created to eliminate homosexuals by the CIA but then again, to me it is an urban legened, a bit like the CIA can create a chemical weapon the destorys all but the primary parts of the human brain... (zombies.)
Ever tragedy before the rise of the nation called the United states of America? Yes, billions..... Such as before mentioned the PLAGUE.... The death of Joan of arc.... could go on but I am sure there isn't enough memory on this site to state of tragedy of the planet earth before USA was was founded lol....
All storms are creations of God, he is THEE creator of everything. There are also thousands of explaninatons to why he creates them. Not allways to kill humans, as you put.. lol
G W Bush, is just human.... Nothing more, nothing l.... *thinks hard* Nothing less... Just not that intelligent....
I don't really feel like saying much more... apart from everthing you said in that post is wrong....  have a nice day, God bless.
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09-21-2005, 07:19 PM
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Psychological Janitor
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
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Originally Posted by littlemissattitude
Well, I guess I just don't accept your premises then, Chela. So I suppose that there is no point in even discussing it any further. I most certainly do not believe that humanity is a cancer. I choose to see the good in humanity, and I choose to believe that there is more good than evil. I see that good manifested every day. I choose to see the possibilities in humanity.
I don't believe that God or anyone else sends hurricanes as a punishment or that Mom Nature sends them to "cure" anything.
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Ok.
Please then, choose to see the good in my posts, and the not the evil. (Or, even better, choose neither and see it how it actually is.  )
I agree that one must feel the infinite possibilities lying at the depth of one's soul within the eternal moment of now. It is good to greet the day with volant smile and a warm heart. This is a good way to live. But I do not see how one can choose the good and reject the evil, because one must first assume they know the difference between good and evil, and that assumption is usually wrong.
What kind of healthy organism causes such havoc and agony to Earth? Depletes its blood (oil), replaces it with pockets of air and water via pumping, only later to be converted into water and air pollution? Extracts its precious metals (veins) out of greed? Tests atomic bombs under its crust, infecting it with highly entropic and dangerous elements? Is unable to cure something so simple and basic as world hunger? Cannot go a single day without killing each other? Why are there people so mind bogglingly rich, and other people so very, very poor (although our personal financialstatus is always 'justifiable')? What kind of person can see this and accept it as normal, healthy and intelligent?
This great Earth is suffering enormously; it is under so much pain, perhaps you do not realize because you choose not to see it. Cure yourself and you help cure earth. Humanity's infinite possibilities are smothered by its hate, greed, lust, envy, pride, gluttony, etc.. The infinite possibilities awaken in the depths of one's soul when those infrahuman elements are driven out and replaced with their opposite counterparts (virtues). The only possiblity for Earth, as it is currently going, is death.
Why, according to Sumerian, Babylonian, Akkadian, Chaldean, Hebrew, Greek, Germanic, Irish, Aztec, Inca, Hopi, Caddo, Indian, Chinese, etc., etc., mythologies speak of the Great Flood? Precisely because the Earth was in the same situation it is in now, and in order for future generations of humanity to get a chance to live, in order for Earth to continue to live, it had to be cleaned.
But you are right, if you don't see it, then there is nothing more to be said.
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09-22-2005, 01:00 AM
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
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Originally Posted by 17th Angel
*clears his throat...*
Your tsunami theory... I won't even comment on APART from That is outrageous.
The plague was around centuries before the CIA, so please go figure.... I have heard HIV was created to eliminate homosexuals by the CIA but then again, to me it is an urban legened, a bit like the CIA can create a chemical weapon the destorys all but the primary parts of the human brain... (zombies.)
Ever tragedy before the rise of the nation called the United states of America? Yes, billions..... Such as before mentioned the PLAGUE.... The death of Joan of arc.... could go on but I am sure there isn't enough memory on this site to state of tragedy of the planet earth before USA was was founded lol....
All storms are creations of God, he is THEE creator of everything. There are also thousands of explaninatons to why he creates them. Not allways to kill humans, as you put.. lol
G W Bush, is just human.... Nothing more, nothing l.... *thinks hard* Nothing less... Just not that intelligent....
I don't really feel like saying much more... apart from everthing you said in that post is wrong....  have a nice day, God bless.
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I believe Vaj was interjecting a bit of sarcastic humor in that post. I dont believe it was meant to be taken seriously. 
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09-22-2005, 11:37 PM
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Executive Member
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
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Originally Posted by Moddy
Dozens of mosques still stand during Tsunami
this mosque in Sigli was made only of wood but still survived unscathed despite all the other buildings around it being destroyed
During Katina Hurricane on Aug. 31, where six Presbyterian churches were destroyed, Canon Johnson said Christ Church, Bay Saint Louis; Trinity, Pass Christian; [censored]. Patrick’s, Long Beach; [censored]. Peter’s, Gulfport; [censored]. Mark’s, Gulfport; and Redeemer, Biloxi, had been “demolished.”
April 8, 1998 Alabama
It was a night when 14 churches were heavily damaged or destroyed.
A MIRACLE FROM THE ALLAH ALMIGHTY! THOSE WITH INSIGHT WILL RETURN TO THE PATH OF GOD BEFORE THE COMING DOOM.
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And the major Episcopalean Churches of New Orleans were fine.
Some mosques were standing, some were destroyed. How do you differentiate which was more righteous in the eyes of God?
God does not need to punish one of His houses of worship and leave another standing to make a poiint. God's point is already obvious.
Why get stuck contemplating the destruction of Nature when God is all Merciful?
Regards,
Scott
Nonsense!
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09-23-2005, 06:23 PM
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Spiritual ronin
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Re: Hurrican is God's work
Curious Mike,
This is from the same source you quoted in your post :
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Originally Posted by BBC
Over the past few hundred years, there has been a steady increase in the numbers of sunspots, a trend that has accelerated in the past century, just at the time when the Earth has been getting warmer.
The data suggests that changing solar activity is influencing in some way the global climate causing the world to get warmer.
Over the past 20 years, however, the number of sunspots has remained roughly constant, yet the average temperature of the Earth has continued to increase.
This is put down to a human-produced greenhouse effect caused by the combustion of fossil fuels. This latest analysis shows that the Sun has had a considerable indirect influence on the global climate in the past, causing the Earth to warm or chill, and that mankind is amplifying the Sun's latest attempt to warm the Earth.
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Perhaps you should read the articles in their totality before quoting them. Facts are there: global warming is causing the oceans to warm up. Hurricanes feed on warm water (just look at Rita getting stronger over the anormally warm Gulf of Mexico these days).
Pollution is causing global warming. The situation we have now isn't the U.S.'s fault, it's the world's fault over the past century. But if Bush doesn't do something soon (Kyoto anyone?), it will be his fault in the next decades.
On the topic now, we are (as a race) the only ones to blame about Katrina's destruction. Not God...
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Kal
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