Hurrican is God's work

[path_of_one]

"The Holy Spirit is sex." (quoted)

?!

Never heard that one before, but there's a first time for everything, I suppose.

Not easily offended, but I think it is a little bit of an odd theory, and I hope you also are not easily offended, because I really must poke a few logical holes in it.

And of course, I must add the opposing argument- that the area hit is also part of the Bible belt. So I guess all those devout, conservative folk and the poor, nice villagers in the tsunami-hit area just happened to be in the way of Earth's (God's?) wrath against the sexually depraved? Why would the Earth care about sexual immorality? I can see God caring, but nature???

So far, I haven't seen any tsunamis or hurricanes hit Hollywood or San Francisco. And there's a great degree of sexual freedom out here in California (you can call it immorality if you like, but if it's consensual and not hurting someone, you must admit it is a matter of perspective).

As a scientist, I am going with the theory that makes sense. If you build cities in areas where hurricanes are probable, you have a statistical likelihood of being hit by one at some point. Tsunamis happen sometimes. The results for humans are pretty crummy, but that's how nature goes. Human beings' sexual choices have little to do with natural disasters. Now if you want to argue about disease, that's another matter entirely... but seriously- connecting human sexuality with natural long-term processes like plate tectonics and annual weather cycles?! I suppose the dinosaurs' sexual choices caused the meteor hit and resulting natural disasters that ended their reign?

Why do people have such a hard time accepting natural forces and processes just happen because that's how the Earth works? Why does it have to be about morality or God?

[Shelle]

Originally Posted by Chela

There is a reason why Jesus states that all manner of sin shall be forgiven except that which is against the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is sex.


Without doubt, every natural disaster is related with the karma of the area that is affected.

Chela I am unsure exactly where you are going with this statement?


Personal sexual freedom should be welcomed.

I do not believe hurricane Katrina existed to cleanse New Orleans of sexual expression/freedom as suggested in the article.

I do believe Katrina was a cleansing and we will see more cleaning in the world to bring back balance. Our planet is not coping with what we have subjected her to.

[Faithfulservant]

It wasnt too long ago.. 1969 that my parents lost everything they owned.. and had to be airlifted out of Columbus MS when Camille hit.

It is true that it wasnt just Biloxi and New Orleans that was hit and my mom told me while I was visiting those 2 places just this summer that they were referred to as "Sin cities of the south" She spent years living in Biloxi.. My Gfather was stationed there and so was my father at Keesler AFB.. which is still standing she would go to mardi gras every year and told me that Biloxi was a Mob town.

I have to admit that the thought did cross my mind as those two cities were hit so hard.. But if you think about it who were the ones most devestatingly affected.. The African Americans elderly and impoverished people... They are largely spiritual people and most are Christian so the thought did not last long as I watched news coverage.

Then again I may be wrong.. God did not personally tell me His plan.. but I guarentee that there were more than 10 righteous in these areas and I believe it when the bible says that we are not appointed to wrath. He also gave us the covenant that He would not destroy the earth with water..

I agree with Path on the fact that we have so many homeless who are ignored and how completely messed up this is.. they will continue to be ignored after this is over.

[Chela]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Only if the earth was made for everything but man...however, I've never seen "cancer" try to repair the damage it has caused...

I see man doing that everyday.

v/r

Q

Just like the body heals itself after surgery.

[Chela]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

"The Holy Spirit is sex." (quoted)

?!

Never heard that one before, but there's a first time for everything, I suppose.

Yes, of course! It is the Holy Spirit that impregnated Mary.

The Holy Spirit is 100% sexual.

It is the Holy Spirit that must impregante the personal Yeshua (savior) in us all.

Not easily offended, but I think it is a little bit of an odd theory, and I hope you also are not easily offended, because I really must poke a few logical holes in it.

And of course, I must add the opposing argument- that the area hit is also part of the Bible belt. So I guess all those devout, conservative folk and the poor, nice villagers in the tsunami-hit area just happened to be in the way of Earth's (God's?) wrath against the sexually depraved? Why would the Earth care about sexual immorality? I can see God caring, but nature???

Jesus said quite clearly that the path to Heaven is a Narrow Gate and that those who find it are few!

Just because someone goes to Church does not mean they are saved. Just because someone dies or lives from a natural distaster does not save them or condemn either.

So far, I haven't seen any tsunamis or hurricanes hit Hollywood or San Francisco. And there's a great degree of sexual freedom out here in California (you can call it immorality if you like, but if it's consensual and not hurting someone, you must admit it is a matter of perspective).

Everyone has the free will to do whatever they please! I am only bringing into the spotlight what the Bible states.

As a scientist, I am going with the theory that makes sense. If you build cities in areas where hurricanes are probable, you have a statistical likelihood of being hit by one at some point. Tsunamis happen sometimes. The results for humans are pretty crummy, but that's how nature goes. Human beings' sexual choices have little to do with natural disasters. Now if you want to argue about disease, that's another matter entirely... but seriously- connecting human sexuality with natural long-term processes like plate tectonics and annual weather cycles?! I suppose the dinosaurs' sexual choices caused the meteor hit and resulting natural disasters that ended their reign?

According to the Bible (and many, many other ancient cultures), God wiped out an entire Earth's population via a flood, because they were perverse. And, the Bible states it will happen again, in the not to distant future, but by Fire, again because people have become perverse.

[Chela]

Originally Posted by Shelle

Personal sexual freedom should be welcomed.

I agree. Sexual emancipation from desire should be welcome and achieved in everyone, so only love blossoms in everyone's heart.

Sexual desire, however, is not freedom at all. Sexual desire turns the beautiful Lucifer-Venus (Light-Love) into the Devil. Sexual desire binds Prometheus to the hard rock of sex where he is tormented endlessly. Sexual desire prompts Psyche to unmask Eros, leading him to flea...

[InLove]

Peace to All Here--

Amazing discussion.

Several of you here so far have made apologies ahead of time about whatever anyone may find offensive.

So I will join you.

I doubt seriously if any of the disaster victims I or my children have spoken with recently care very much at this particular time what anyone thinks about their sexual habits or how old the earth really is. These are issues that, in time, may return to the forefronts of their minds. Right now, they are interested in feeding and clothing their children (no matter whether anyone else thinks these children were born of sin).

And I think that for now, the main issue at hand for anyone who wishes to speak about God is to (pardon me) put up or shut up.

And please, those of you who sort of know me know that I do not mean any harm here, and tomorrow I will probably worry about what I said, except that I will probably not have much time. I will just give my worry to the One who tells me "He" has already and will always take care of it. If I cannot do this, then the sacrifice I believe in is null and void.

My children are involved in this rescue effort. The real-life stories here are beyond words for me at the moment--and I am not even exactly in the middle of this.

Do I have family members that are affected? Yes. There are members of my family who cannot locate one another. I suppose that this is the wrath of God? If you say so. Better be sure you are right about that, though.

For anyone who believes that Katrina came to "cleanse" the "impure", I invite you to visit the ones you despise. Before you do, remove the tree trunk from your eye--if you do not, I guarantee you, Something Higher (whatever you think It Is or Is Not) will...

With hurricane force, at least.

InLove

[17th Angel]

I saw something yesterday I thought was deeply pleasing.... I have never in my life heard of or experience such selflessness, love and care.. A man who I would say was about as poor as myself, opened his home to a family of eight people he doesn't even know.... He has said they can live with him and his family until their lives are back together and has got their children into the school where his children go.... A man like this I can not help but admire.... that is true beauty... Brought a tear to my eye thinking of the love of this man.... I then felt slight anger... when I put his life compared to say bill gates..... People have so much greed...

[InLove]

Thank you, Angel-- (tell me someday about why you are the seventeenth?) And welcome to CR.

I don't have much time to post here these days--but I still have a feeling I will as often as I can.

There are so many stories--TRUE ones. My heart is broken and lifted all at once when I hear from the people whose homes are still standing and they have insurance and everything. But most of all, my heart is broken and lifted by those who do not have this and never had. Actually, many had "homes" that, for some reason, the majority of Americans (U.S.) apparently do not consider home, because these homes were not owned by the occupants--only looked after faithfully for years. Whatever they have lost will perhaps be covered by some kind of insurance--and it will go to the landlords.

And then there are those who had nothing at all before this happened. Perhaps, in some round-about way, they will actually get some help.

I would just like to say that if FEMA had not recently undergone reconstruction, being integrated into Homeland Security, then this agency would perhaps have been able to respond more quickly. I noticed that Michael Brown has been sent home to Washington? And is the Coast Guard taking over? Good deal, as far as I can see. I do not think that FEMA should be directed by the federal government, but it should be as it began--an advisory and emergency unit--like maybe a part of the cabinet?

Well--gotta go--sorry if I was harsh before, or if my statements about judging others were self defeating--I cannot really go around judging others for judging others. It is just that the devastation is really so great and people are suffering, and I honestly do not see how anyone can pronounce punishment or damnation without calling upon the same.

I do not mean any offense (I sure get tired of saying that, but I suppose it is worth repeating over and over if it is true).

InPeace,
InLove

[Curios Mike]

Heres another theory... Though Im not saying this is what I believe, but can by into, more easily then the old God sent it theory. But maybe just maybe becuase over half the U.S. has thumbed its noses up against God that maybe he has removed his hand of protection away and disasters such as 9/11, or Katrina have hit us like they have. If this is tru their will be more to come. But do I think God purposly sent this? No, I think their is a time for everything. I time to laugh, a time to morn, a time to live, and a time to die. Just like their is a summer, winter, fall, and spring. Sometimes things happen doesnt mean Its Gods fualt, or even mans fualt. But I will say this if one of my kids tells me to stop protecting them and renounce me as their father, I would have to ablidge... That is when they are old enough to make such a desition.

[human1111]

Here is what kabbalists believe. Watch this clip. Hopefully all your answers will be answered.

http://www.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/...s_05-01-05.wmv

[Plaidback]

Originally Posted by Chela

There is a reason why Jesus states that all manner of sin shall be forgiven except that which is against the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is sex.

I feel you, and you are on a very strong point, when it comes to a Holy Spirit.
You feel what you say, that is strong connection. Try to understand that
Spirit is not Matter, just like Soul, they are Dimensions.
Your Soul ( just like Everybody elses, identical with everybody else's )
is distance between your first and your last breath.
Spirit is your ( Unique and IMPOSSIBLE to replicate ) vision of that distance.
Holy Spirit is The Truth about that distance.
Holy Spirit is Sex on Spiritual/Mental level, and very soon is going to
Screw billions of minds, faster then you can say "Sex"

Sin is just Metaphor ( Illusion ), and You need to understand, that Jesus was
Limited with use of Dictionary known then. So He didn't have option not to use words such as Sin, Prayer, " my Father in Heaven ", and still ended up
being misunderstud by absolutely Everyone.
Pharisees felt, the Dude is Crazy, and Disciples did not have Clue who Is He,
They only believed.

I am Happily married, but still would love to have spiritual sex with U

Laidback Pete

[Plaidback]

God is Everything that have created Everything from Beginning to an End.

Which part of Everything is hard to understand ?

No One will ever know God, therefore it is Illusion trying to find out.
Even if you are lucky that you were chosen to recieve Holy Spirit, (coming
out of your DNA structure), you will not know what is God.
If you were chosen to exist forever with " His Son ", you will never know
who is " Son of Man "
Right now you are only capable to believe that 2000 years ago " Son of Man "
was called Jesus from Nazareth.
And that's where belief ends.

much Love !

[Plaidback]

Originally Posted by human1111

Here is what kabbalists believe. Watch this clip. Hopefully all your answers will be answered.

http://www.kabbalahmedia.info/VIDEO/...s_05-01-05.wmv

What kabbalists believe,( up to the point, when I had to stop video, because
I lost interest in finding out what kabbalists believe ) is Illusion that contradict
itself.
The Dude with white beard have said that we live on level of impossible to change Nature, and we can change.

Which is Lie, because We are just small part of that Nature, and as a Part of
Something that do not change, we can not Change either.

I have unlimited respect and unlimited love for all, but if your beliefs are Lie,
there is unlimited love in my attempt, to let you feel that.

All people are good .

much Kabbalah !!

[InLove]

Hi--read the article--

Honestly, I think that there are so many things going on in the media--some honest, and some not--and many things going on here on the Internet--it is difficult for a global community to understand it all.

What has happened in New Orleans is a tremendous devastation. Unless one personally undertstands devastation, there is no way one can understand what has happened here on a grand scale.

Perhaps there are some who understand personal devastation who can relate to the things that have happened here--if you do, then lift up the people of New Orleans and the surrounding area.

The aftermath of Katrina is more than what one person--even the most thoughtful one--can imagine.

Some intellectuals might posit, "Why was the city built there in the first place?" I might posit, "Why did the world think it was such a great destination all these years? A heck-uv-a vacation spot!

Here I am in Texas, and all around the Gulf Coast, and way up into Dallas-Fort Worth, we are caring for the people whose lives have forever been changed. Yes, there has been looting--I would not have taken a t.v. set, but if I had seen the waters rising, and there were clean diapers for anyone's babies--you can bet you booties I would have grabbed those items out of the flood!!! Why not??? Grrrr...

Honestly--one can look at this however one chooses. One can choose to ignore it. Katrina can mean whatever one chooses--

As some here have suggested, it is the judgement of God upon an evil city--for those who believe this, then I suggest you get busy with evidence (not for the people of New Orleans, or for me, but for yourself--and between you and whatever entity....)

I could write all night, and maybe I will write more in the morning--

I'd like to talk about the term, "fundamentalist", as I believe it is much misused and maligned.

Here I go, sticking my old neck out there again--but GEEZ!!!

InPeace,
InLove