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Old 08-18-2005, 01:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: How Egyptian were the Jews?

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Yes, what would such a suggestion even mean? Their 'biographies' are quite different.
But Hammurabi had the same resume' as Solomon.

Both occupied the same land, known for wisdom, wrote proverbs, built great city-states and temples. Why they even had the same adversaries.

None of these things can be found in the Iron Age period supposedly when Solomon live. Go figure.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: How Egyptian were the Jews?

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Yes, what would such a suggestion even mean? Their 'biographies' are quite different.
There would be massive problems trying to reconcile Akhenatan and Solomon as the same figure, but I believe we've seen it suggested...

It can be really interesting in trying to consider them as contemporary, but even then, even our Jewish moderator has long warned of taking Biblical history as religious history too literally.

And welcome to CR, Peter Kirby.
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Old 08-29-2005, 08:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: How Egyptian were the Jews?

I think...the jews were the Hyxos who worshipped and bringed in the nomadic desert god Seth to egypt.
They wfere send to the valley of death were egypt sent its unwanteds included deseased.
Moses was a surving priest of the egyptian monothism around Amon-Ra cult.

He recruited the Hyxos and exhiled egypt to start a new kingdom for his new religion
mixing his egyptian monotheism with well eqyptian gods such as Seth.
It later add to the Kain and Abel story.

Seth was actually not so "Bad".
We was a desert god, granted rain and after life but only through hardship.
Seth was also a militant figure and did storm and quake stuff.

He wanted to rule egypt and according to egyptian sourses the Jews/the hyxos tried to rule egypt.

And the whole name of god thing has rooths in egyptian religion.

The Jews have sacred names and nummerlogy
the egypians had that too.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:21 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: How Egyptian were the Jews?

The Ark of the Covenant is also influenced by Egypt: the temples in Luxor and Karnak (=Pythom and Raamses?) had an Ark in the small, sacred room in the back. It represented the boat on which the god floats through the Eternal Waters.
There are also Mesopotamian influences in Genesis and Persian influences in concepts like the Holy Ghost, Satan and the Paradise.
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Re: How Egyptian were the Jews?

Does anyone have a view of why Egypt is specifically mentioned in this passage? And did Israel ever get sent back to Egypt as in Deut 28 and become Egyptians, or is that also symbolic of something else Thanks.
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Zech 14:18
If the family/clan of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they [shall have] no [rain;] they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

Deut 28:68 "And the LORD will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, 'You shall never see it again.' And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy [you."]
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Old 01-06-2006, 01:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: How Egyptian were the Jews?

i dont know how egyptian the jews were, but we are doing the story of Joseph & jacob & Egypt right now in the interfaith parsha if you are interested.
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