How do you pray?

[LeoSalinas22]

hi imqueen,
this is truly a fascinating response! i have never known anyone to pray in a polytheist manner. yes, i have to agree that our planet earth is a wondrous work in itself. the trees, the wind, the life that crawls all over her, is just so amazing. and that is not only it! we still have all of the heavens to see. the moral statement i always look to is found particularly in a psalm in the bible:

Psalms 40 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart. thank you so much for your response, impqueen. i look forward to chatting more in future posts. thanks again and God bless you...

[Tao_Equus]

Dondi,

lol, well good marketing is a kind of investment of prayer too. There are certain techniques that definitely work, such as your example. The power you attempt to harness through prayer is distorted by religion to be something we supplicate ourselves to some notion of God for. My belief is rather it is a neutral field of energy that you can call on to serve any purpose, good or bad. Look at the power of self-belief Adolf Hitler had as a good example of the negative. To me the notion of God is almost invariably anthropocentric and this has been something deliberately encouraged by the holders of the arcane truths. Because it limits the peons ability to have access to the power these elites are able to use to serve their will. The energy we can harness is as accessible by the beggar with 1 leg in Calcuta as it is by Bill Gates or the Pope. but no good businessperson gives away their trade secrets if they can help it.


ImpQueen,

I was wondering have you ever taken a look at Gaia theory?


regards

Tao

[Dondi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

My belief is rather it is a neutral field of energy that you can call on to serve any purpose, good or bad.

Sort of like "The Force"?

To me the notion of God is almost invariably anthropocentric and this has been something deliberately encouraged by the holders of the arcane truths. Because it limits the peons ability to have access to the power these elites are able to use to serve their will.

Perhaps in some circles. But the idea of a "heavenly father" who is open to His children, particularly in Jesus' teachings that the poor and the halt are likewise welcome, invites those with simple faith to approach God with childlike wonder. Indeed, He taught that you must come as a child.

The energy we can harness is as accessible by the beggar with 1 leg in Calcuta as it is by Bill Gates or the Pope. but no good businessperson gives away their trade secrets if they can help it.

I absolutely agree. God has no respect to persons. But there is no real secret to prayer, just trust in God.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Dondi

Sort of like "The Force"?

Yes!! lol i dont like star wars tho.

I absolutely agree. God has no respect to persons. But there is no real secret to prayer, just trust in God.

I would say trust in oneself is far far more important.

Regards

Tao

[Dondi]

I would say trust in oneself is far far more important.

Regards

Tao

I won't agree the relativity of that statement. But let's just say I tried that once, and it didn't work. It was only when I found myself in relation to God that I could trust myself. And it's still a struggle.

[KarimK]

wow really interesting answers.

Impqueen, I'd love to hear more about your religion. What is it exactly? Do you just pick up here and there the gods and ideas that you really relate to? Or is it more sort of a Germanic or Norse neo-pagan thing?

Tao, did you find that your, um, technique works?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by KarimK

wow

Tao, did you find that your, um, technique works?

Absolutely!! And I mean it. Everything I ever set my heart on I have achieved. That includes 2 wives, 2 successful businesses and years of travel. My trouble is though as soon as I achieve one dream I am off on the next, a piscean trait allegedly. I have also used this force to heal my children, self and animals. Currently I am in a lazy phase, content to sit back and watch and have no short or medium term aspirations. But as soon as I do I trust in my will to take me where I want to go.

Regards

Tao

[LeoSalinas22]

That includes 2 wives,

wait a minute, you a polygamist, tao?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

wait a minute, you a polygamist, tao?

lol, not at same time. Some might say i'm a serial failure

[LeoSalinas22]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

lol, not at same time. Some might say i'm a serial failure

serial failure? how is that, man? you sound awfully successful compared to me!

[Impqueen]

Tao - I have looked at Gaia theory and found it very interesting. However I'm wary of using it in relation to my religion because there seems to be controversy over whether Lovelock meant that the planet is sentient, or whether it functions 'like' an organism. My reading was that the planet seems to function like an organism, but it doesn't necessarily follow that it has a 'mind' - afterall, amoebas are organisms. I happen to believe that it has a soul, but that isn't necessarily supported by Gaia theory.

Karim - My religion is a rather amorphous beast at the moment I believe that gods, souls and spirits are made of the same stuff, but that all these things are still seperate. (Like you and I are both mainly carbon and water, but are completely seperate beings) I am coming to the conclusion that the Earth is a large soul rather than a god. The differences between gods and their connections to one another (e.g are Venus and Aphrodite the same goddess?) are amongst the things I'm still trying to work out. The existence and nature of smaller spirits like land-wights and fairies I'm also undecided on. I celebrate the seasons like many neo-Pagans, although as I'm exceptionally lazy, it is often only something that happens in my heart, rather than through any particular actions. To a certain extent you could say I just pick up appealing ideas and use them, but I do think about it all rather alot too and come to my own conclusions. Admittedly sometimes I only find good words for these conclusions when I hear someone express something similar.

[Tao_Equus]

Well I said some might say. To me I have few regrets and most of them were unavoidable. Those to me are not things I dwell on tho. Dwelling on failures serves little purpose except to give them power. Divorce is a common enough occurrence in the modern society in which I find myself and I lose no sleep over it. In addition such failures are the end of a chapter not the end of the story and who knows who might walk into my life tomorrow. Hmmmmmm need to start 'praying' Angelina Jolie comes to this years Edinburgh Film festival....and we kinda like bump into each other.. again and again and again

Tao

[LeoSalinas22]

dude, you would do it with a chick who did it with billy bob? that's gross, man!lmao! plus she looks like she got stung on the lips by a million bees. have you seen how skinny she got?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

dude, you would do it with a chick who did it with billy bob? that's gross, man!lmao! plus she looks like she got stung on the lips by a million bees. have you seen how skinny she got?

Once you hit your 40's you cannot afford to be choosy :P

[LeoSalinas22]

sorry for derailing the thread people! let the propper posting comence!