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View Poll Results: How confident are you that God exists?
100% - Absolutely sure, no doubt 10 41.67%
70-99% - Greatly confident, but not completely without doubt 9 37.50%
30-69% - Fairly confident, but often has doubts 1 4.17%
1-29% - Not confident, Serious doubts about God's existence 2 8.33%
0% - There is absolutely no God. 2 8.33%
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:12 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Just for the record, being 100% certain that - there is "a God" - doesn't necessarily mean one claims to fully "grok" (understand) that God/Higher Power, much less that we understand the ultimate nature (place, purpose, origin, etc.) of God!

Although I believe in a whole hierarchy of beings, almost any of which - after a certain point - could be called `God(s)' ... I take it as a given that even the least of these demi-Gods is well beyond my ken.

What I cannot doubt, at this point, is that this great chain of Being, or Jacob's Ladder, leads directly to - the very Heart of God, and then disappears into ... the Unknown.

This leaves plenty of room, unfortunately, for doubting oneself - and, imho, THIS is the part we must all get over, or get beyond, on the spiritual journey. Faith in God, even to the point of 100% certainty, is actually the easy part. Faith in self - if you stop and think about it - is something a lot more challenging.

Self-confidence, rooted in a proper sense of spiritual perspective, and appreciation of one's greatest strengths, and also one's weaknesses, combined with utmost humility ... and a willingness to do what is right regardless of the outcome or circumstances. Hmmm, I shudder to think how far I am from 100% when it comes to this kind of certainty ...
See Andrew, it surprizes me to read these words, for you are a man who clothes words in fine eloquence concerning Theosophy and being right.
I often wonder on CR if there is a certain nature to designate down the self.

Self confidence and God confidence.......... Is there any difference?

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Old 06-07-2007, 04:50 PM   #62 (permalink)
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See Andrew, it surprizes me to read these words, for you are a man who clothes words in fine eloquence concerning Theosophy and being right.
I often wonder on CR if there is a certain nature to designate down the self.

Self confidence and God confidence.......... Is there any difference?

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Greetings Ciel,

Perhaps there are 2 self's ? lol

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Greetings Ciel,

Perhaps there are 2 self's ? lol

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Great. We're all a bunch of schizos.
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Old 06-07-2007, 05:54 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Perhaps there are 2 self's ? lol
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Or no self.

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Old 06-07-2007, 05:56 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Great. We're all a bunch of schizos.
I think you mean Dissociative Identity Disorder

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I think you mean Dissociative Identity Disorder

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Are you talking to me?....Or are you talking to me?

Neither. There is no "me".

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Old 06-07-2007, 06:11 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Greetings Ciel,

Perhaps there are 2 self's ? lol

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Hi, Joe of the golden avatar.

What two did you have in mind?

I see the earthly nature of the soul.

And the aspiring presence of the spirit.

And the two as one.

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Old 06-07-2007, 06:23 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Re: How confident in your belief in God?

99% sure, simply because the universe and all of us exist. Especially if god turns out to be an inpersonal one.
So no need to look for a proof of love or any other human type of attribute.

1% uncertainty because I'm finite, I could be wrong so easily.
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Hi, Joe of the golden avatar.

What two did you have in mind?

I see the earthly nature of the soul.

And the aspiring presence of the spirit.

And the two as one.

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Ditto

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