Heaven is it for Real?

[Thomas]

However we view the 'beauty' of creation - and 'beauty' is one of the transcendantals along with 'truth' and 'goodness' - and remember that Augustine was not alone in the Christian Tradition 'daring' the unbeliever to look at the glory of the Kosmos and refuse to believe in God - however we view the world, we must acknowledge that it is finite, and as such imperfect, limited, contingent ...

Thus no matter how perfect the world might be, and we might be, it and we will only ever be 'a' perfection, a realised instance of the perfect.

The world might be perfect, but it is ephemeral - whilst humanity responds to a vocation to the eternal.

Heaven's 'perfection' then is its timelessness and its its infinity - and those within it will transcend all issues of relativity, contingency, accidence, etc. What we cannot do is measure it by finite norms.

Those who do not enter do so because they want to hold on to what they've got.

The Christian notion is not that the Infinite is apart from the finite, but rather that the Infinite 'enfolds' the finite in loving embrace.

So Heaven might be seen to be the eternal moment of that embrace.

Thomas

Thomas

[suanni]

But I ponder some of our thoughts, stories, myths...whether the roads are paved in gold, all our desires are met, every body gets 40 virgins or whatever...I was pondering...

A man had to dream that up So what will the ladies get?

Is heaven for real? We can ponder all of our lives. We will not know until the inevitable comes.

Does man really have to have a vision of living perfection in order to love and respect other living things?

[taijasi]

Originally Posted by Thomas

The Christian notion is not that the Infinite is apart from the finite, but rather that the Infinite 'enfolds' the finite in loving embrace.

So Heaven might be seen to be the eternal moment of that embrace.

I think this is what a Teacher of mine was suggesting when he would remind us ... that the Greater always includes the lesser.

andrew

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by suanni

Does man really have to have a vision of living perfection in order to love and respect other living things?

Yes, I think so. It is the only way we check ourselves here on earth. If we imagine Hell, we tend to create it here. So why not imagine heaven?...

v/r

Q