Halloween and All Saints Day

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Pimpernel

Hah, Bandit, you got me!

The first one I've seen - it really did air as a commercial in Germany - but I fell for the second one hook, line, and sinker!

Very good then Scarlet
Sweet. now i feel better, like i accomplished something.

there used to be a real good one out titled WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS SONG (& the lyrics scroll) then the excorcist girl pops out. that was one of the best ones ever, but i have not seen it around for about 3 years.

[_Z_]

Hey bandit you are more dastardly than I thought! I liked the tricks – zombie one was great! I’ll be watching the movies – well the ones we got over here, ill look out for the bette midler one.



Oh how I would love to have a trap door for those trick or treaters eh! Ah well beastly hands that come out of the bushes and caress their feet will have to do!

Z

[Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine]

I had volunteered at the local public museum for their Halloween hauntings (until they me once too often [not abiding by their own rules, not feeding us when they promised {I shared a couple of filled rolls with a gentleman who is hypoglycemic}, and letting a five year old girl in to watch Nosferatu when she didn't want to go].) I played the Schoolmarm from Hell, and I used to tell the "patrons" who weren't following the rules that they were registered for my class within the next three months.

What I do now is I take out a few books by Edgar Allan Poe and Joseph Sheridan le Fanu, get a couple of taper candles, invite a few people over for "chow" and read ghost stories by the light of a single candle. The gentleman I shared my dinner with has been to a couple of my Halloween readings, now he and his wife do the same thing with their friends.

btw, Nosferatu was the German silent film that followed Bram Stoker's Dracula pretty closely.

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

[pohaikawahine]

The Day of the Dead is also celebrated in Mexico at this time (usually November 1 and 2) .... this is suppose to be the time of the year when the "veil" between the worlds is the thinnist and the ancestors can communicate easily,just as we can communicate with them .... so many cultures use this time to giver offerings to those that passed over in rememberence .... just as interesting note, there was a special ceremony on the hawaiian islands many many years ago to move the "iwi" (bones) of the "ali'i" (the high chiefs) to another burial place .... it took place on all hallows eve because of the opening of the 'veil' ....in the early years there were no formal marriage ceremonies, but later when marriage ceremonies were in place my grandparents were married on holloween eve .... which i always thought was pretty interesting since they were on the hawaiian islands ..... and later I found out about the "veil" .... he hawai'i au, poh

[_Z_]

That’s interesting pohaike’! I wonder if the American cultures thought of themselves as children of the underworld like the Celts did [tirnanog – land of eternal youth, not hell of course].

Z

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

The Day of the Dead is also celebrated in Mexico at this time (usually November 1 and 2) .... this is suppose to be the time of the year when the "veil" between the worlds is the thinnist and the ancestors can communicate easily,just as we can communicate with them .... so many cultures use this time to giver offerings to those that passed over in rememberence .... just as interesting note, there was a special ceremony on the hawaiian islands many many years ago to move the "iwi" (bones) of the "ali'i" (the high chiefs) to another burial place .... it took place on all hallows eve because of the opening of the 'veil' ....in the early years there were no formal marriage ceremonies, but later when marriage ceremonies were in place my grandparents were married on holloween eve .... which i always thought was pretty interesting since they were on the hawaiian islands ..... and later I found out about the "veil" .... he hawai'i au, poh

that is interesting. but you know what i have found is the veil is there & just as thin any time of year. i guess i just dont have much of a religious perspective for halloween except for ghosts & goblins in the make believe sense.
interesting again how the holiday is connected with the dead by moving the bones of the ali'i.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by _Z_

That’s interesting pohaike’! I wonder if the American cultures thought of themselves as children of the underworld like the Celts did [tirnanog – land of eternal youth, not hell of course].

Z

WHAT? Am I missing something? The Celts celebrated the start of summer and the end of summer? Children of the dang underworld?

Waiter!

I'll have what he's having.....

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

I had volunteered at the local public museum for their Halloween hauntings (until they me once too often [not abiding by their own rules, not feeding us when they promised {I shared a couple of filled rolls with a gentleman who is hypoglycemic}, and letting a five year old girl in to watch Nosferatu when she didn't want to go].) I played the Schoolmarm from Hell, and I used to tell the "patrons" who weren't following the rules that they were registered for my class within the next three months.

What I do now is I take out a few books by Edgar Allan Poe and Joseph Sheridan le Fanu, get a couple of taper candles, invite a few people over for "chow" and read ghost stories by the light of a single candle. The gentleman I shared my dinner with has been to a couple of my Halloween readings, now he and his wife do the same thing with their friends.

btw, Nosferatu was the German silent film that followed Bram Stoker's Dracula pretty closely.

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine

the schoolmarm form hell. LOL
Edgar Allem Poe is one of my favorite writers & a great choice for Halloween tales.
i think the tales are a good idea.
i found a site online that has house of usher & pit & pendulum for anyone interested. actually i think it has everything he has ever written.
enjoy!

http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/poe/Work.html

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

WHAT? Am I missing something? The Celts celebrated the start of summer and the end of summer? Children of the dang underworld?

Waiter!

I'll have what he's having.....

remember the mole people? the ones who lived underground. literally underground. that was good creature feature

[_Z_]

17th angel,

not heard of the dis-pater! Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dis_Pater

all.

October 30th Wickerman

The scariest event of the season, Archaeolink celebrates the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain when the spirits of the dead return to the land of the living. The Celtic Mythology Haunted House returns in its 2 nd year even scarier than before. Spectacular Fire Juggling and Drumming displays! Traditional Harvest Games and Spooky Storytelling make for frightening family fun. In a spectacularly spooky finale, witness the Celts take part in a human sacrifice and then set alight a giant Wickerman.

http://www.archaeolink.co.uk/

hope they ar not still actually putting people in there! we just use furtilizer to bring in good crops nowadays

Z

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by _Z_

17th angel,

not heard of the dis-pater! Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dis_Pater

all.

October 30th Wickerman

The scariest event of the season, Archaeolink celebrates the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain when the spirits of the dead return to the land of the living. The Celtic Mythology Haunted House returns in its 2 nd year even scarier than before. Spectacular Fire Juggling and Drumming displays! Traditional Harvest Games and Spooky Storytelling make for frightening family fun. In a spectacularly spooky finale, witness the Celts take part in a human sacrifice and then set alight a giant Wickerman.

http://www.archaeolink.co.uk/

hope they ar not still actually putting people in there! we just use furtilizer to bring in good crops nowadays

Z

ooooh. i want to go to that. fire juggling, drumming, spooky stories & haunted house is right up my alley for halloween.

throw me another roll of TP
hope they dont hear us & wake up.

[17th Angel]

_Z_

All of these rituals and traditions of Celts are simply misunderstood... they seem dark and evil, but they are just primitive ways to hope they gain a good season of food and to remain fertile lands... I don't see the dark side, just a primitive side :\ Over the years the festivals and such have just been twisted like every other thing.. :| I dunno.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

_Z_

All of these rituals and traditions of Celts are simply misunderstood... they seem dark and evil, but they are just primitive ways to hope they gain a good season of food and to remain fertile lands... I don't see the dark side, just a primitive side :\ Over the years the festivals and such have just been twisted like every other thing.. :| I dunno.

i know what you are saying.
i see the dark side of it, but only in pretending. i have no religious perspective on it at all. so that is kind of confusing for me.

for example...they would carve a pumpkin to keep the bad spirit away. i would carve it to have a bad spirit come . i know that is so backward, but it is all just for fun, for me.

[_Z_]

I think there was a dark side, certainly to the wicker man in its apparency to us, although it is thought that the ancients believed they were doing good for the community with the ultimate sacrifice, the saying ‘Jesus is my druid’ comes to mind! So yes you are right even in the extreme of the case.

Z

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by _Z_

I think there was a dark side, certainly to the wicker man in its apparency to us, although it is thought that the ancients believed they were doing good for the community with the ultimate sacrifice, the saying ‘Jesus is my druid’ comes to mind! So yes you are right even in the extreme of the case.

Z

i think so too Z

just wanted to say thanks to all for talking with me on this & taking the poll.
i enjoyed the topic. it was fun & informative.
Have a nice & safe weekend whatever you do or dont do for Halloween.