Glad to be veggie

[Paladin]

Hi cavalier,

Actually protein and even B12 aren't the biggest issue for us vegetarians, it is Essential Fatty Acids like omega 3 , 6 and 9. If you google these you will get all the info you need. EFA's usually come from animal sources and play a very important role in our diet but can be found in walnuts, flax seed oil, sunflower seeds and other plant sources. The company "spectrum" even makes a margarine like spread made from the flax seed oils and contains most of the EFA's needed. Suplements usually have them if you make sure there isn't gelatin in the capsules as this is made from animal bones.

As for being weak? Ive been a veggie for many years and I run often,mountain bike, do Tai chi and Wing chun several times a week. At 46 I am in the best health of my life.

Peace
Mark

[Jaiket]

Hey Mark.

Originally Posted by Paladin

Actually protein and even B12 aren't the biggest issue for us vegetarians, it is Essential Fatty Acids like omega 3 , 6 and 9.

How important are these? I've been a vegetarian since two weeks after my 19th birthday (I'm 22) and I've never taken supplements.

[wil]

Fish get their EFA's from seaweed and so can you...I use B-12 sublingual supplement...not just becuase I veg...but because 40% of all americans show defiency...

Protien...is everywhere...not an issue if you regularly eat a colorful palate. Keep away from the white stuff, white rice, white flour, white sugars...which tend to deplete and eat a variety of fruits, nuts, grains, veggies...leaf, root and stalk... most meat eaters are overprotiened... which tends to deplete their calcium... and cause other maladies..

I was brought up in a house where we had meat at least once a day, every day. Not only that, but the opinion of vegetarianism was that it is biblically unsound, obviously homosexual, just plain strange, and it would make me weak.

Most americans eat meat every meal...and a meal without it they cringe...unless of course it is a peanut butter sandwich and somehow that suffices... everyone until Noah was veggie eh?... also interesting when you look at how many athletes are veggie....never heard the homosexual reference...

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by Jaiket

Hey Mark.

How important are these? I've been a vegetarian since two weeks after my 19th birthday (I'm 22) and I've never taken supplements.

Good to see you again Jaiket!

try:http://www.fatsforhealth.com/library...goodhealth.php

this should explain why you need essential fatty acids in your diet.


Wil:

Nice post, these are great things for veggies and carnivores to remember.

Peace
Mark

[angrytroll]

I have met the objection to/bemusement by "pretend meat" before, and initially felt quite guilt-ridden about my love of and reliance on such products.

However, I have never found the taste or texture of meat unpleasant in itself (if only I had - how much easier it would have been to become a vegetarian!), and my decision to stop eating meat and fish was 100% ethical/moral. Without Linda McCartney products etc, I might have fallen at the first hurdle. As it is, I have been able to stick to my principles. The most important thing, in my view, is that I no longer knowingly contribute to the suffering and indignity of other living things, or collude with the assumption that animals are "ours" to do with as we wish. And when a corned beef sandwich beckons (as it so often does...) Quorn "ham" fits the bill very nicely!

If kid-on meat products help former meat lovers like myself to make this crucial change to a more compassionate way of living, long may they continue.

AT

[AletheiaRivers]

Quorn "ham" fits the bill very nicely!

I'm not a vegetarian, but I do love Quorn. Especially the lasagna.

[Vajradhara]

Quron makes a ham??

that must not have made it to my area of the woods yet, i suppose. mostly, we have their chicken around here.

metta,

~v

[flowperson]

Please define Quorn ? I'm not familiar with the product.

While I don't do red meat (beef and pork, although I'll succumb to an In-N-Out animal style once a month because my Mom makes me do it) I stick with turkey products mostly (ham and straight) along with chicken occasionally. Lots of salads also.

Is Quorn a vegetable-based product like soy-burger or tofu? Please illuminate us oldsters who do so much want to be hip and are still trying mightily to be so.

BTW, I make my lasagna with egg plant cubed and sauteed in olive oil with garlic and onions...mmmmmmm.

flow....

[AletheiaRivers]

http://www.quorn.us/

After you go to the site, click on the "What is Quorn" link.

[flowperson]

Thanks, I have read about this before, but the name didn't register. This conversation makes it worth giving it a try.

This all somehow reminds me of my favorite alternative food movie, Soylent Green .

flow....

[AletheiaRivers]

Originally Posted by flowperson

Thanks, I have read about this before, but the name didn't register. This conversation makes it worth giving it a try.

This all somehow reminds me of my favorite alternative food movie, Soylent Green .

flow....

Ewwwwwwwwwww! Talk about being as far away from vegetarianism as one can get!

[angrytroll]

Originally Posted by Vajradhara

Quron makes a ham??

that must not have made it to my area of the woods yet, i suppose. mostly, we have their chicken around here.

metta,

~v

And a "roast beef"!

AT

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by flowperson

Please define Quorn ? I'm not familiar with the product.

While I don't do red meat (beef and pork, although I'll succumb to an In-N-Out animal style once a month because my Mom makes me do it) I stick with turkey products mostly (ham and straight) along with chicken occasionally. Lots of salads also.

Is Quorn a vegetable-based product like soy-burger or tofu? Please illuminate us oldsters who do so much want to be hip and are still trying mightily to be so.

BTW, I make my lasagna with egg plant cubed and sauteed in olive oil with garlic and onions...mmmmmmm.

flow....

Yumm...
Please post your recipe here.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

I know what you mean, Wil.

I have reduced my meat consumption to maybe once or twice a week. I love the taste of beef, I must say, so I probably eat a little fillet mignon maybe once every other month or less. I eat chicken or fish once or twice a week, and I have never been able to eat eggs and I have always been lactose intolerant so I stay away from dairy products most of the time (I love cheese so much!!) Every couple of years or so I'll go completely vegetarian maybe for about a year - usually ending that when the beef craving makes me a raving lunatic.

I can't say that I don't like meat, I just feel better when I don't eat it. But because I'm not on the tip top of my nutrition habits, I feel I need it for protein purposes.

Like the "taste" of meat? Try Portabella Mushrooms...you'd swear it was good beef.

v/r

Q

[Quahom1]

Fish, fowl, red meat, pork. I love it all. But most of it I catch on my own.

We (at my house) follow a strict guidline for what we eat (except for holidays)

Starch in the morning, no lunch, flesh and vegetables in the evening (no starch). The flesh part is roughly four ounces a day. The veggies make up a considerable majority of the plate. (since I do most the cooking, I can ensure the diet).

Hey, we're in our 40s and carry about eight percent body fat. I'd say that is pretty healthy.

I do appreciate an all vegetarian meal, if there is lots of flavor to it, then I don't miss the flesh, but after awhile, I want to sink my teeth into a juicy steak, or grilled Salmon (chicken is ok).