False prophets.....

[Sacredstar]

Dear Q

LOL well I was talking about real prophets that are blessed to receive prophecy not the likes of Bush. I do not consider Bush to be a prophet but I can understand why some people would think so.

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Sacred, just read some of the old headlines (recent), American gets his head cut off by hostage takers and the last thing the victim (and the world) heard was, "This is for the Christian, Bush." Q

Yes BUSH will increase the hatred in the world for Christians without doubt but unlike some others, I am not attached to the word Christian or Christianity because GOD as always got a plan up his sleeve to allow transformation and reformation to take place.

GOD consciousness is fearless and love of GOD is all one needs and divine love and light will win in the end.

I have absolutely no doubt of that for it is GOD's will and GOD's will, will be done.

The lover and the beloved

Sacredstar

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

He, he, he, he, we ain't talking about George W. Bush, as some might suggest, now are we?

v/r

Q

yah you got it Q!!! <g> i dont think they did though.
it only takes one rotten apple to spoil em all. one little lie mixed into the truth to persuade someone in the wrong direction.
one drop of cyanide in the soup will kill everyone who eats it and make some very sick to death.

I am sticking with the bible and not what the diviners say.
Hey Q, You and I will have to chat on Revelations together someday.
I appreciate you brother.

[didymus]

Bandit, some of your books have already been taken away.

[Bandit]

that is odd, last i checked, which was just an hour ago, i still have them all.
Some people just love to pick the bible to pieces.
Pick and surmise, trying to create doubt.
Definate spirit of anti Christ IMO.

it is really evident to me that the bible is being attacked in the Christian threads which I consider another attack against me. I dont see it happening in the other forums that have beliefs so often but it happens here on a regular basis.

I will just have to ignore these types of postings.
Thanks for another kick to the teeth.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Q

LOL well I was talking about real prophets that are blessed to receive prophecy not the likes of Bush. I do not consider Bush to be a prophet but I can understand why some people would think so.



Yes BUSH will increase the hatred in the world for Christians without doubt but unlike some others, I am not attached to the word Christian or Christianity because GOD as always got a plan up his sleeve to allow transformation and reformation to take place.

GOD consciousness is fearless and love of GOD is all one needs and divine love and light will win in the end.

I have absolutely no doubt of that for it is GOD's will and GOD's will, will be done.

The lover and the beloved

Sacredstar

Personally, I think that the president of the United States is both fearless and fearfull Sacred. I think he is fearless of the world, but most fearful of God (in the supreme sense of the meaning). I personally like that. You keep saying it is God's will, and the media keeps saying "give it time and he will fail"...5 years, and he hasn't failed...maybe he is God's will for the US right now...and we'd better pray that he does not fail!

v/r

Q

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

...Yes BUSH will increase the hatred in the world for Christians without doubt but unlike some others, I am not attached to the word Christian or Christianity because GOD as always got a plan up his sleeve to allow transformation and reformation to take place.

GOD consciousness is fearless and love of GOD is all one needs and divine love and light will win in the end.

I have absolutely no doubt of that for it is GOD's will and GOD's will, will be done.

The lover and the beloved

Sacredstar

George W. Bush will do no such thing (increase hatred in the world), Sacred Star. You know that as well as I do. Hatred is already here. Perhaps focus hatred, or be the focus of hatred, is what you were referring to. But if so, now you are talking about a person, and not a concept. And that goes against your grain.

v/r

Q

Don't bother cursing me...I'm already cursed. Don't bother blessing me, I'm already blessed.

[Quahom1]

Anytime, friend...

v/r

Q

[didymus]

Bandit, my comment on the books taken from you isn't an attack on you. It is a fact that books have been removed from your Bible. I'm looking at the King James version of the Apocrypha. According to this book it states that the Roman Catholic Church recognizes these books as God inspired and genuine. These books were written between the 4th century bc and 1st century ad. and were included in the Roman Catholic canon. The King James version translated these books right along with the others in 1611. Then these books later disappeared. Your Bible is a product of the Roman Catholic Church and therefore it means that your Bible had books removed from it. I don't mean offence by this, I'm just stating the truth.

The books; 1,2 Esdras, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiticus, Baruch w/ epistle of Jeremiah, Song of 3 Holy children, History of Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, Prayer of Manasses, 1,2 Maccabees are the ones taken out.

[Bandit]

Thank You for explaining . I have all those books you mention. My Grandmother gave them to me before she died and I have some of them in one of the Bibles I have. I don't deny them. I don't put my faith in them either because they do not change the big picture or the message in the 66. They also do not match or resolve any further mystery which is written in the bible, as some others have declared. I do not believe those books are in my best interest, but if you want to believe them, I will not challenge your faith in them.
I am not catholic and do not hold the same beliefs some of them have declared but I will not hinder them either.

One man died, was buried and that same man was resurrected by God. That is my faith, hope and assurance. That is the message. Any other variations of that do not move me.

I have read a lot of material, but none of them do what the bible does for me in spirit. Everyone has to have a sure foundation or they are tossed with every wind that prevails.
It grieves me that you search for more and would lean so far away from what was first delivered to us. I do understand and I pray that you will search that path and when you have reached the end of all the writings, philosophies, sciences and religions in the world, then you will know for sure the man Christ Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. God did not leave us without hope and by and through Jesus is that hope is made manifest to us.

And when you do, you will see that not all Bible believing Christians are what you have experienced and I will be there as a brother wether you stray or remain in the fold. It is a very, very dark night we are in and it is easy for the brethren to stand on the fence and be moved away in the wrong direction.
Rest assured, the little flock of lambs will indeed rejoice when our day is come.
Joy cometh in the morning if we hold fast to that which was first preached and endure until the end.
Love and Peace
In the name of Jesus,
Bandit

[Sacredstar]

Originally Posted by Bandit

One man died, was buried and that same man was resurrected by God.

I agree one man died and was resurrected by GOD but there is no tomb or evidence to prove a burial unless you know something that I do not Bandit.

I should also correct you, the Prophets that bring the word of GOD do not receive revelation through divination they hear the word of GOD, sometimes directly from GOD and sometimes as stated in Romans through the intercession of the saints.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[Basstian]

I have got to agree with Bandit on the Apocrypha. I feel the choice to leave them out of modern Bibles was a good one. Although they still hold a historical and even moral value I wouldnt want to build my faith on them as I do scripture.

I was surprised by this thread I really thought it was going to bore me at first. Buy diving headlong into prophecy and things we still know of as a mystery and cannot prove as fact.

I agree as far as prophets are concerned that they spread out into culture much farther than just tellers of the future. I see many false prophets in the Christian faith today and what is scary is they do not know they are. I see examples of a teaching or doctrines being taught by a false prophet and then handed down over many generations and still being taught as truth today buy men who have never taken time to read the truth for themselves. Scary how easy it is to lead sheep astray. Sheep are some of the dumbest animals in the world. They rely on their sheperds for just about every essiential need in life water food etc etc. When under attack as a flock they flee together right or wrong. When sepperated they stand and are killed with no effort to save themselves. They will not run from danger when alone ever.
Funny we are compared to sheep.

This thread was started with a question about false prophets and sure enough a representative shows up. When I say this is Gods word or the will of God I walk in the shoes of a prophet. When I teach,lead or type in text that misrepresents God I become a false prophet. Been there Done that trying hard to avoid doing it in the future.
I recall a verse to the law and to the testimony if they speak not according to these it is because there is NO light in them.
I believe in the Bible as the Law and the testimony of God. For those who dont or would like to add or change or use it to decieve. Please donnot be offended but rather examine what it is you are teaching to see if it truely shows the light of Gods word.
SacredStar I am sorry but I saw no light in your posts. I side with Bandit and Servant in being offended at your interpretation of Gods word and at the gross adding to it. It was not the Church that made me have this view but the Bible its self (funny how the word judges us like that) Once God speaks something it becomes an everlasting truth He does not change He does not Lie never has and never will. What He said to Adam is true for us today and also the children of Israel. Old and New testament combine to give us all we need to know about seeing through Gods eyes. I would carefully consider the source of this spiritualism to make sure it has (LIGHT) in it.

IMO you have set a fine example of a false prophet but like I said I have also in the past and it can be fixed. But like bandit said it is going to take reading and careful study of Gods word so you have the true Law and Testimony to work from hope you see the Light

~~Peace~~

[Mus Zibii]

My answer concerning false prophets is brief. Its in the eye of the beholder. Basstian mentioned false prophets who don't recognize their failures. The reason for this is, they can reconcile their teachings according to their own criteria. One of the great archetypes Judaism gives us is the unappreciated chosen, the prophet killed by his own people. Christianity and Islam and Mormonism, etc profited from that perceived legacy until persecution became tantamount to righteousness, whereas in the Torah victory meant righteousness. See, Elijah killing the leaders of a rival religion compared to Isaiah telling the people they have blood on their hands. I repeat, eye of the beholder.

Even Jesus' great advice of, by their fruits you will know them doesn't work. An example would be Christian America's disdain for pacifism as a symptom of weakness, though I'd say such people were more in line with the doctrine of not resisting evil.

[Sacredstar]

Dear Basstian

Its very interesting to me find this post here, because the only reason I am up this early is because GOD woke me up at dawn by calling my prophets name for the very first time. This name I am not allowed to share with anyone for GOD told me a year ago that those that recognise me will indeed know my name and who I am.

GOD as prepared and trained me well and I take no offence at your views because it is GOD who knows and it is GOD who decides. Many people from different walks of life have tried to interfere and sway me off track so I am very used to the tests. A couple of years ago Jesus and Mother Mother appeared before me, Jesus said 'my mother is praying for you, I asked him why? Jesus replied 'to ensure that you continue to only listen to us' So the message was loud and clear, and to GOD I am devoted and have dedicated my life to GODs will and this will remain so until my dying day.

Basstian I was a very successful business woman and I gave up everything I owned including my beautiful six bedroomed home to fufil GOD's will and so it is that I live humbly with GOD. This is very hard for people to truly understand but as GOD says "child how can others appreciate what motivates you to do the good things that you do, when their only motivation is self. "

I am sure that you are aware that it states in the bible that it is only a prophet that can recognise a prophet and decide this person is a true prophet. Some things that you have said contravene the word of Jesus for he himself also stated (in the bible) that what had gone before was to be replaced by him.

GOD is calling all of us to be Lion hearts and not sheep to the slaughter. Lionhearts lead and in GOD's name and do not follow like a flock of sheep, GOD tells me that it as been the sheep mentality that as got human kind into trouble by not taking responsible action. Sheep mentality first promoted and misconstrued by the early church fathers.

Yes Jesus is our shepherd but Jesus also serves us just like he served the Apostles with humility by washing their feet, can you follow his example and wash my feet Basstian as I would wash yours?

In 2000 I was asked to provide a lecture at a major MBS exhibiton on my experiences with the Holy Mother and I was not keen to do this at all, but I carried out GOD's will. In the audience there were two ladies from different churches sitting either end of the front row of the auditorium they both scowled at me during my presentation of the facts. I could feel myself stepping back from their energy and negative dark vibes......a few days later whilst in contemplation the Holy Mother visited me and she said 'Child face other's fears with love and never be afraid. When faced by a person who sits in fear, do not step back from that fear but go and kneel before them, pick up their hands, connect your heart with theirs, look deep into their eyes, smile and tell them that you love them. Face other's fears with love and never be afraid, because you walk in my name."

So Basstian I am fearless in GOD's name because GOD sees all.

I love you and thank you for being.

Kimxxx

[Sacredstar]

Dear Q

Originally Posted by Quahom1

George W. Bush will do no such thing (increase hatred in the world), Sacred Star. You know that as well as I do. Hatred is already here. Perhaps focus hatred, or be the focus of hatred, is what you were referring to. But if so, now you are talking about a person, and not a concept. And that goes against your grain. Don't bother cursing me...I'm already cursed. Don't bother blessing me, I'm already blessed.

Yes you are correct that will teach me to respond quickly without due thought, yes I did mean a focus for other's hatred. Yes Bush is just a catalyst, the darkness is in those that have the negative thoughts 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'.

But as Mother Mary promised after the Iraq war began

"There is a new dawn on the horizon and out of the darkness will come the light."

Love beyond measure

Kim

[Basstian]

Jesus I know His Father I know and believe in.

Your Mother I donnot care to know and I do not as a Christian and believing in the Word of God as handed to me in the Bible feel any need to know.

Jesus said "I am the Way" I need no other you provide me with nothing on any level that would make me fear.

Boasting look how humble I am is absurd.


I would not at this time wash your feet nor would I allow you to wash mine you seem to miss the whole point of that. It was the master serving His servants.
He washed their feet. His servants people who believed in Him people who did the will of His Father.
I didnt see anywhere He humbled Himself to unbelievers trying to change the word of God and lead people astray. Nor will I.

I would have no communion with you at this time. I stand opposite you in every area.
I am a Christian follower of Christ Jesus Son of the Living God. I do not know who you follow but I can tell from what I have read in your posts we are not following the same God.
You have built yourself a golden calf and named it spiritualism I want no part of it.

I hope that you will find the Truth in Jesus it does not have to be recreated everyday to fit your needs it stands the test of time just as it has since the beginning of creation.

It is loving but also kind enough to rebuke us when we are wrong.