False prophets.....

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Bandit

Typical man.....big smiles!

"Your little perfect fairy tale world of everything is perfect"

It is in GOD's eyes because humanity used their free will to choose it.

"everyone is love is what is decieving"

In assuming you misunderstand me, my truth is that there is original goodness in everyone because GOD created everyone and Jesus said 'the Kingdom of GOD is with you' and Paul said 'You are the Christs"

When you see through GOD's eyes there is no deception only the illusion of imperfection preached by the church dogma of original sin in GOD's name to keep us in the illusion and separation from GOD.

This illusion clouds human perceptional consciousness from seeing the perfection in GOD's creation.

Being love

Sacredstar

Big Smiles Star. Typical Woman. You are right back into false teaching again.
There is not original goodness in everyone. There is potential goodness and potential badness in everyone.
Your illusion and perception of false prophets has nothing to do with the kingdom of God. There are no false prophets in the Kingdom of God.
But there are indeed many false prophets outside the Kingdom of God.

Your teaching that everyone is perfect is your own dogma and I do not listen to what contradicts the bible. Ever. You might get some others to follow you, but not me.
I will follow the bible and the Lord in all His ways, not your ways or my ways.

The opposite of false is truth. What is Truth?
God does not like false prophets and liars and wickedness.
You should use the bible that God gave to us to try and see through Gods eyes, not make up your own stuff. That is when I do not listen to what you say. You make up whatever fits your agenda and not Gods agenda and it is becoming very cruel of you to teach things that are not right. You will indeed be held responsible for every word Star.

Shall we look and see where the false prophets and liars end up according to the bible?
or should we go by what Star the Wonder Woman teaches.

[Postmaster]

Originally Posted by Bandit

certainly! there are false prophets in politics, religion, economics, education. You name it!
Do you think I honestly put my trust any governmental or religious powers??
anything that deviates from what Gods word says, I consider to be a false prophet.
Wake up Star. There are false prophets everywhere and in everything.
Your little perfect fairy tale world of everything is perfect and everyone is love is what is decieving.
The bible is the truth and God is truth only He.

This is very true, this is Gods world but it’s ruled by man, man has free will and the knowledge wisdom, people choose within if they going to do Gods work, however people use Gods name wrongly. Anyone who causes suffering, hate, violence and intentional pain under the name of God or generally anything against the bible is a false prophet.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Postmaster

This is very true, this is Gods world but it’s ruled by man, man has free will and the knowledge wisdom, people choose within if they going to do Gods work, however people use Gods name wrongly. Anyone who causes suffering, hate, violence and intentional pain under the name of God or generally anything against the bible is a false prophet, George Bush being one of them. In my view its better to be killed then to kill. Iraq also caused no harm to anyone in the west also, this case of the Iraq war even today has not found evidence of weapons of mass destruction. Was a very bloody war any innocent children's blood staining the streets to protect our "way of life". The one that kills innocent children

Yes. We can see it or we can ignore it. We can understand what God is trying to tell us in His Word, or we can ignore it and make up our own ideas about it.
The History of man is not always a pretty picture, but we do indeed have victory through the blood of Jesus when we accept him at His word and do our best to follow him.
The bible teaches us to love our enemy. That does not mean join them and do what they do.
Gods ways are not our ways. This is why we see so many problems on earth because man makes up his own ideas and lies to others and hurts each other through deciet.
I love the Lord and I love His ways. They are righteous. He is a just God when we stay close to Him and learn His ways.
His ways are not in politics and religion. They are in spirit and in Truth.

Yes, It is ruled by man and presidents and kings and princes and legislations and creeds and false religions and and it is ruled by cruelty and darkeness. This is the power of the antiChrist, that of the spirit of devils that some people listen to. Mans power will fall and fail. But God cannot fail.
There are a some who lift Him up in spirit and let God rule the Kingdoms of there Heart and the false prophet cannot harm us. But we will certainly know them when we see them.

I want to thank everyone for this thread and Postmaster for starting it. I am kind of tired of talking about the false prophets so I wont be posting on this for awhile.

We need the Lord. He is bigger than we are and it is precious to know that we can climb up in His lap and curl up under His mercy and Love, and that He will hold us tight and protect us.
But we must listen to Him just like a parent teaches there children not to take candy from strangers. AND to look BOTH ways before crossing. There is an enemy out there, the false prophet, but
GREATER is HE THAT IS YOU THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD!

Lets go join the others if you all want to and study and learn how to pray in the new thread started under Prayer.
Peace to my brothers and sisters in the Lord and in the name of Jesus.

[Faithfulservant]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Beware of wolves in sheep clothing for wounded animals are dangerous indeed. They welcome you with open arms and allow you to share your heart then when you feel really safe they devour you with their teeth. Wolves are more dangerous then false prophets and this you can trust.

Biblically, wolves ARE false prophets AND false teachers.

I really must protest your hijacking this thread SS and putting anti american propaganda on a religious board. You do not know everything as much as you may think you do. Please leave it for the politics forum.

[Dor]

Ok I read this post tonight and must admit I got a tad pissed off but after some time and consideration I have decided it is not even worth it.
so on that PM thanks for starting a post that I enjoyed quite a bit.
Marsh, Bandit and Fathful thanks for the thoughtful and true responses to the constant jabs.
And to Ms Anti-American and lead em all astray all I have to say is you are forgiven and I still love you.

[Faithfulservant]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Bandit

In your innocence you are sadly deceived bandit

Sacredstar

From Man Superior to Woman thread you said...

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

May we replace the word ignorance with the word innocence it is more palatible and harmonic for our energy systems.

I do not believe that you are protecting the harmony of Bandits energy system with these posts.

[Bandit]

I do not believe that you are protecting the harmony of Bandits energy system with these posts.

LOL

Lord help us in these LONG LONG very LONG last days.
Someone is trying to steal all my energy.

Will any flesh be saved.

It is a good thing we still have God and Jesus, because all my energy is being drained.
I am going to have to get some energy bars for the next topic.
You know, it would be nice to have a roller coaster in my back yard too.

( i am laughing with joy in the spirit, but it is true. it is all so true)

[Sacredstar]

Dear Bandit

Originally Posted by Bandit

1. There are no false prophets in the Kingdom of God. But there are indeed many false prophets outside the Kingdom of God.

2. Your teaching that everyone is perfect is your own dogma and I do not listen to what contradicts the bible.

3. God does not like false prophets and liars and wickedness.

4. You will indeed be held responsible for every word Star.

1. There is no separation only illusion of separation created by the church

2. Its in scripture if you have the eyes to see GOD says we are faultless, behold you are the temple of the living GOD. Why would GOD tell his people they are the temple of the living GOD if we were not perfect in his image?

If GOD is perfect man must be too for we are made in his image. There is a whole gospel of scripture on perfection which is wonderful. But the church did not wish the people to know these things because otherwise you would not listen to their tales about salvation and then they could not control, dominate and keep people in the fear of GOD.

3. GOD loves everyone for GOD does not judge, which is why he sent Jesus to teach us not to judge others and love our neighbours as ourself, to love our enemies as ourself. Anti-love of anything or anyone is anti-christ for Jesus came to teach us love, love of self, love of others and most of all love of GOD. So for instance I love Bush because what he is doing is making the world wake up to take responsible action.

4. I certainly AM and GOD loves me very very much and the feeling is mutual - love beyond measure. My sacrifice as been great but my blessings are many, glory be to GOD. I got a wonderful message from the salvation army today - GOD loved you from first sight!

For I AM truly blessed

Anti-love is anti-christ.

Sacredstar

[Sacredstar]

Bandit nobody can steal your energy you give it freely.....as one should with no expectation.

Lots of Love

Sacredstar

[Faithfulservant]

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

1Corinthians 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?

2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you* are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people."


lol Paul wrote this.. Im curious...I thought his writings were corrupt? If you are going to use some of his writings why not the rest that dont fit into your beliefs?

I just donated some stuff to the Salvation Army.. got a tax write off too.

[KnightoftheRose]

If GOD is perfect man must be too for we are made in his image.

Errr...Adam and Eve, the fall from grace? We WERE perfect, once...

But the church did not wish the people to know these things because otherwise you would not listen to their tales about salvation and then they could not control, dominate and keep people in the fear of GOD.

Um, no, the church excluded certain scriptures due to their uncertain origins. And claiming Christianity has been manipulated by the early Church in order to 'dominate' people is highly offensive.

GOD loves everyone for GOD does not judge

This is amusing. Where did you get that "God does not judge"? That's totally unbiblical.

Anti-love of anything or anyone is anti-christ for Jesus came to teach us love, love of self, love of others and most of all love of GOD.

Agreed, except for that tidbit about loving the self. Jesus taught us to give the self to anyone who asks ("And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain"). Self-giving and self-love don't walk hand-in-hand.

[lunamoth]

Dear Sacredstar,

I agree with KotR here--no need to keep saying that you think the Church is totally corrupt and evil and etc.. Evil and good have both been done in the name of the Church, but the Church is the Body of Christ and sacred to (many) Christians.

peace,
lunamoth

[Dor]

1. There is no separation only illusion of separation created by the church

Rom 6:23For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rev 14:11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
There is indeed seperation and it can be caused by the church and it can be taught by people who like to lead people astray but it is always caused by sin.

2. Its in scripture if you have the eyes to see GOD says we are faultless, behold you are the temple of the living GOD. Why would GOD tell his people they are the temple of the living GOD if we were not perfect in his image?

Eph 2:3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Rom 5:12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
All humans have sinned except one, all of us except for Jesus have fallen short.

3. GOD loves everyone for GOD does not judge, which is why he sent Jesus to teach us not to judge others and love our neighbours as ourself, to love our enemies as ourself.

Hbr 9:27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
2Pe 3:7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Rev 20:12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
There is judgement all through the bible. My judgement took place when Christ the annoited one, not some collective conscience nonsence, was crucified and resurrected for the sins of mankind if thou shall believe in him.

4. You will indeed be held responsible for every word Star.

Jer 14:14Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
1Jo 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1Jo 4:2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jo 4:3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, all.

This is very true, this is Gods world but it’s ruled by man, man has free will and the knowledge wisdom, people choose within if they going to do Gods work, however people use Gods name wrongly. Anyone who causes suffering, hate, violence and intentional pain under the name of God or generally anything against the bible is a false prophet.

yet,…

“He exiled all the infidels from the village .They did not catch up their deads and funerals. In just a few times they abandoned the village and the population remains purely Greek.” Quoting an unnamed source –“Chapel of Saint Xenophontas (xorinou)” (This is used to describe the building of a church and the enthroning of the attendant Saint and icons as a result of religious genocide. –jt3)
http://www.comparative-religion.com/...ead.php?t=2186

Ummm, come on guys, shouldn’t we at least be consistent? It is difficult to see one political leader being ridiculed while another, (who it could easily be argued committed far worse crimes,) being praised.

I do think the bulk of the political commentary should be reserved for the political board. Generalized political comments are going to remain relevant, but detailed accounts of personal political positions are not appropriate to this board. This means you, Star.

Besides the fact which, it is difficult to see a bunch of looney tunes liberals trying to dictate religious creedos, when they can’t even get their own act straight. And I’m sorry but,

“Well the news has arrived and he is a man of justice and truth, he is a lawyer. ( –jt3, ROFLMAO! ) GOD bless us all and special prayers for this brave and courageous lawyer, on a mission from GOD.”

?
I find this absolutely hilarious, a lawyer as a man of god! Of course, then I must ask, which god?

I suppose next we should nominate Michael Moore to be the Secretary General of the UN? Like that would somehow make the world a better place? I don’t think so. These people are in it for the fame, the notoriety and the money. There is nothing spiritual or enlightening, most especially on a global level, that these people have in mind to achieve. They are not out to achieve any kind or form of universal brotherhood and peaceful interaction among peoples. They are in it for the money, plain and simple.

May I presume, Faithful and Bandit, that this is some of what you are implying with the other thread? I do think this thread is getting a bit out of control, and unlike the other thread I do think here it is from those who claim to know better, but their actions betray their insensitivities and callous disregard for others’ beliefs. If the behavior continues, doesn’t one think it serves to demonstrate in a concrete manner intolerance well beyond Christianity? And frankly Star, I am not certain how you consider yourself Christian in any more than the most superficial manner. I respect your beliefs, even if I disagree with them, but it seems to me you are implying that your path is somehow the correct path for all Christians. THAT, I most especially disagree with. I do think you bring a lot of superfluous contradiction into what you have to say, and deliberately confuse by talking over people’s heads instead of addressing questions and concerns directly. This does not make you appear wise, in any manner, shape or form. Rather, it speaks volumes about attempting to confuse in the hope of inflating personal ego. I was taught long ago, with reinforcement across many communication classes, that the first lesson in communication is to speak to your audience, at a level they understand. Otherwise, as someone else already pointed out and the hint was ignored, you become as “a sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal,” which is unintelligible for human communication. And frankly, it has nothing to do with ears to hear or eyes to see, if there is nothing worth listening to or looking at.

[Bandit]

May I presume, Faithful and Bandit, that this is some of what you are implying with the other thread?

yes sir.
we dont want to force the bible on anyone, but we also do not want the bible to be taken away from us. we base our entire faith on spiritual matters and everyday principles and living on it.
we do not want to force Jesus as Lord on anyone. But we also do not want the Lord Jesus taken away from us.

maybe the early catholic church was like this, but not everyone is like this today. it grieves me deeply at the thought of someone taking away any of the books of the bible or my freedom to worship God through the man Jesus. I would rather be delivered to a terrible death for Gods eternal glory, than to suffer on earth and be made to deny any of the bible or that Jesus is my Lord.

While I do agree with many things in other teachings, when they contradict the bible I cannot choose the way of contradiction. I will not force my beliefs that differ from anyone, and that is all I am asking for in return.

Jesus does not have to be everyones Lord and Savior, but he is mine. One of the ways I have come to know God is through the bible and my freedom to study it and pray.
Not just for my own good, but for the good of others in the perfecting of the saints and to make earth a better place, while we wait and endure all tribulations to share in the glory of God in eternity.
I have tried other ways and listened to other beliefs yet they do not work for me.

My speech is true Juan.
Not for my own glory but for the glory of God who made me in His image and likeness. I do indeed love all of mankind and all of the creation, even when a man does wrong or brings harm to others. I do not justify breaking the law or hurting others, but I do not keep any bitterness or malice toward them either.
I do Love the Lord my God with all my heart, mind, soul and strength and nothing can separate me from His love.