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Old 09-17-2007, 01:51 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Evangelical minister stops believing in hell and gets fired

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I can’t see that you’ve done the formal boring intro thing so can I ask: are you a Discordian or do you just like the Sacred Chao symbol?

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I am what I yam, which includes being a yam (on Tuesdays). On a serious note, being that I am eclectic, I don't think I can answer your question and if I did it would be something along the lines of "no with a 'but' and yes with an 'and.'"
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:58 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Hi Karen...

... that a unity of humankind in the future was going to be necessary in order to defeat death and enter into the "kingdom".

Just my two cents.
Better check your counters.

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Hi There!

Unified in what?

I will think of you everytime I leave the cream out,

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Old 09-18-2007, 11:09 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I thought hell meant seperation from God. And I thought God is all there is.
To my understanding yea, hell isn't some magical realm where you burn while you die a thousand deaths and consantly get tortured, it is an abscence of the presence of the divine..... Without god you are "tormented" not in a nipple twisting way..... But in a bottomless pit in your gut way... Something is missing, but as you say it is interesting that god is in everything and is everywhere so how can it be possible? I guess it would be something along the lines of the person not wishing to acknowledge god and removing him from them.... Making it like a self inflicted thing... heh.

Which then I can understand how the word "torment" is used... Someone maybe trying to seek but seeking the wrong way(s) and you are constantly tormenting yourself because it is right there infront of your nose... and such and so on...... Quite, I'm sure.......
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:43 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Jesus went to hell ................Acts 2:25-27, KJ: "David speaketh concerning him [Jesus Christ], . . . Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell,* neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption." (The fact that God did not "leave" Jesus in hell implies that Jesus was in hell, or Hades, at least for a time, does it not?) (*"Hell," Dy; "death," NE; "the place of death," Kx; "the world of the dead," TEV; "Hades," AS, RS, JB, NW.)
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Jesus went to hell...
Yea... I didn't think much of disney land either...
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