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Old 03-11-2008, 06:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Here you go, Pathless.
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:41 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Here you go, Pathless.
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Oh, thanks. You know, I just noticed that Paladin had named the thread in his original post. Duh. I could've searched that out myself. Thanks for doing it for me, SG.
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:45 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Kindest Regards, Paladin, and welcome to CR!

Well, if I understand your question correctly, ethics is applied morality, morality being the set of rules (formal or internal) that we use to make judgements of equity and fairness for ourselves and towards others. In other words, morality is the thought process of "right and wrong," ethics is applying those thoughts into external actions (walking the talk). Hope this helps.

I do think you have a good point though, and it really shines through with words that have multiple meanings, like the term "religion."
This quote by Junatoo from the Defining Terms thread is very similar to what I read, if it is not indeed what I read. But why would I have read a thread from 2005? That's so unlike me.

Eh, must have something to do with first-post syndrome.
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:47 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Oh, thanks. You know, I just noticed that Paladin had named the thread in his original post. Duh. I could've searched that out myself. Thanks for doing it for me, SG.
No sweat, Pathless. It'll leave you more time and energy to sift through your workspace for whatever you are looking for.
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:49 PM   #35 (permalink)
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This quote by Junatoo from the Defining Terms thread is very similar to what I read, if it is not indeed what I read. But why would I have read a thread from 2005? That's so unlike me.

Eh, must have something to do with first-post syndrome.
Hmm, have you been studying the history of Confucianism, or anything like that, by chance?
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:50 PM   #36 (permalink)
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No sweat, Pathless. It'll leave you more time and energy to sift through your workspace for whatever you are looking for.
Yeah... thanks...?



Okay, here I go then.

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Old 03-11-2008, 09:20 PM   #37 (permalink)
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If you look at it from the standpoint of classical eudemonics, morality in the sense of moral obligation to others is largely missing from the analysis principally because it is not really relevant.

Aristotle in particular was suggesting that certain kinds of activity -- namely intellectual work -- tends to produce happiness. Such activity may have some social value, but its ability to produce happiness is not defined on the basis of any social value. It's strictly a personal value.

In a sense, what Aristotle was suggesting is a type ethics (eudemonics) that does not get expressed in the form of social morality. I thought this was interesting mainly because religious notions of morality often emphasize obligation to others (e.g. Christian Messianic ethics or Buddhist doctrine of harmlessness). {I realize Buddhism is not a religion as such, but just by way of example.}
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Old 03-15-2008, 03:40 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Yeah, I have wondered about this before, thinking morality and ethics were the same. They are very close. I'm not the most intelligent though. I was told by the ones I asked, that ethics is like codes that doctors, lawyers, or professional people go by, and even maybe some governments. But Morality is more of what the individual person would go by, and maybe their society of religious group. If I got it right! That is!
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PMS aside (here's a bit of dark chocolate dear)
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Old 03-16-2008, 09:44 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Snoop! How in world did opium enter in to this discussion?
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CR isn't a tightly on topic kind of place (Hallelujah!!!). Relevance and Snoopy aren't always in the same room together, just sometimes bump in to each other by happy accident.

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Why? Do you want some dark chocolate, too? Here you go, Snoopy, for putting up with my PMS.
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Seattlegal, I'd put up with you any day for some dark chocolate.
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Seattlegal, I'd put up with you any day for some dark chocolate.
Awww....hugs. Help yourself to some of the dark chocolate, juantoo3.
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Did you ever notice how many of our threads end up about food?
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Did you ever notice how many of our threads end up about food?
Maybe we are all latent epicureans? (No matter how objective we try to be, we always long for the subjective comforts--soul food.)
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