Establishing the truth!

[Ciel]

Whatever I am, I am honest Bishadi.

- c -

[Bruno's logic]

Greetings Ceil,
You asked

"Are you writing fiction or for real? Indeed these things exist either way."- c -

regarding my post...
Quote:
"Many White Orbs……, the big Orb radiates heat and lightens up the colorful things of this space wherein I find myself. The smaller white orb changes in size and shape. The many tiny white orbs are a mystery but they can only be seen when the big orb is away. I feel pleasure and pain, sadness and joy…. I can move about and I can imagine all sorts of things that may or may not exist…. I can manipulate things around me…There are other beings like me with whom I can interact with, some leave me be while others push their opinions of this place in to my space…I don’t want it to stop but I do want some understanding of what this place actually is. Signed; the universal entity known as Bruno in here…"

Let me answer like this...
I am a fiction novelist… So I’m always writing about something. But what I was referring to with my post was Bishadi’s original post:

“Are there others who care simply to contribute their time and energy to compile and develop knowledge unbiased by any sect, belief, or science?

If there was a model that retains integrity to the truth over any other priority; are there others who would entertain the duty to contribute to our future?” -Bishadi

Obviously the white orbs are stars and moons and of course all of us experience existence via the human senses including emotions and imaginings but what I was trying to relate was a back to basics approach to the whole subject of experiencing life from the human perspective. I truly believe that the skeletons in humanities closet along with all of the other baggage we carry is our past, it cannot be changed, but still, it is over. If we are to survive we have to let that past go. Call it what it is but let it go… The future is what we make it for we always exist in the present moment.

"If there was a model that retains integrity to the truth over any other priority,” and so a model that establishes the truth it would be this; live for the moment, prepare for the future and release the past… Exist now. The present is our reality. The future is the present that you create. The past is gone….

And let me add this; Be kind rather than cruel because you are me and I am you… we are human. We are one. Benevolence is the only path that can lead us back to utopia. Right now, Humanity stands at the Garden gate, our collective past, is all that keeps us from going back in.

~Bruno

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Question; do you know that 'light' is the energy between mass?



.

Not without a Higgs Field its not. So what is a Higgs Field?

[Iacchus]

How does one divorce mankind from the reality that created him? If the "truth" is inherent with mankind, should it not also be an inherent part of reality? Man is just a witness of the reality he sees, not the creator of it.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Iacchus

How does one divorce mankind from the reality that created him? If the "truth" is inherent with mankind, should it not also be an inherent part of reality? Man is just a witness of the reality he sees, not the creator of it.

But the descriptions are all manmade; words!

The truth does exist but man divorced reality by believing the self as 'outseide' of existence. As if to be above the environment, when directly a part of or literally reliant on.


Higgs model is a boson or particle frame; cern style. The single biggest waste of resource for science on the globe.

here is a beauty:

Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again.

[Muslimwoman]

Gosh guys you lot must have been really bored to keep this discussion (can I call it that) up. I think Greymares "Amway" answer is the most sensible thing I have read in this thread.

Loved the fish slapping dance though

[Iacchus]

There would be no witnessing of truth were man not conscious. Therefore it is consciousness, in line with a "conscious" creator, that exists outside of time and space. It's really quite simple.

[Iacchus]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

But the descriptions are all manmade; words!

The truth does exist but man divorced reality by believing the self as 'outseide' of existence. As if to be above the environment, when directly a part of or literally reliant on.

Unless of course you believe in the dualism between the mind and the body. In which case it's really not all that hard to swallow.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Iacchus

How does one divorce mankind from the reality that created him? If the "truth" is inherent with mankind, should it not also be an inherent part of reality? Man is just a witness of the reality he sees, not the creator of it.

Sorry to be glib but all I can say to that is "no s**t Sherlock". There is nothing, but nothing, other than ego to suggest man is of any importance what so ever. The best we can do is look, learn, re-learn and most of all and most importantly....just ponder.

Tao

[Ciel]

Bruno, thank you for clarifying your point of reference.

When a person is aware of the many phenomena existing in this world capsulating the hidden dimensions it is often more easy to read others to be of the same intention.

Life is far more than a mathematical equation, although wonder exists in all forms of existence.

- c -

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Higgs model is a boson or particle frame; cern style. The single biggest waste of resource for science on the globe.

I know what a Higgs Boson is or is meant to be, (and its discovery or lack of, should be settled soon as the large hadron collider comes onstream this month in Geneva), but I ask specifically about a Higgs Field. From what I gather all current physics rests its calculations on the existance of "any" mass at all on this field. So what is it?

Tao

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Ciel

Life is far more than a mathematical equation, although wonder exists in all forms of existence.

- c -

I agree with all my heart.. but maths and science, reduction, deduction, postulation and extrapolation are no less forms of existence than love, compassion and beauty. There is a place of beauty in every method of wonder.

Tao

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

Gosh guys you lot must have been really bored to keep this discussion (can I call it that) up. I think Greymares "Amway" answer is the most sensible thing I have read in this thread.

Loved the fish slapping dance though

Hi MW.... really nice to see you

[Ciel]

Hi Tao, did you say reduction.......


YouTube - Monty Python - Kamikaze Scotsmen

- c -

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

I know what a Higgs Boson is or is meant to be, (and its discovery or lack of, should be settled soon as the large hadron collider comes onstream this month in Geneva), but I ask specifically about a Higgs Field. From what I gather all current physics rests its calculations on the existance of "any" mass at all on this field. So what is it?

Tao

In each form of math in the current models, they find dead ends. Why would I wish to dig into deads ends of dead end physics. Meaning since they already have an error in plancks h (zero doubt), then why would any wish to continue in a fruitless path.

Try a new pub 4-28-08 "


New (and Old) Perspectives on Higgs Physics"

http://lanl.arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv...804.4460v2.pdf

The number one issue in Higgs physics is the solution of the hierarchy / fine-tuning problems that arise in the Standard Model and Higgs sector extensions thereof from quadratically divergent one-loop corrections to the Higgs mass. In fact, this “quadratic divergence fine-tuning” is only one of three fine-tunings that we will discuss.

still tuning...

It is also worth noting that a light a1 allows for a light ec0 1 to be responsible for dark matter of correct relic density [24]: annihilation would typically be via ec01 ec0 1 →a1. To check the details, properties of the a1 and ec0 would need to be known fairly precisely.

They are just now recognizing the properties of light; entanglement.

Please, I am trying to save a little time and now this thread losts its flavor to others as these tangents only further confuse others. This pub is from UC Davis, and you are communicating with someone who shared the reality of how important entanglement is from the person sharing this all over the globe.

My point is, they published in 2008 to share 'hey light has properties to observe' and I have been saying this for over 25 years......

Are you interested in going forward or rehashing past failures of others?