Dreaming the future?

[Anzac]

I think that dreams are just a junkyard for the days thoughts, but then I'll just be having a normal kip and all of a sudden someone's face who I haven't seen or thought of in years will just appear out of the blue and it's that random element that I can't seem to explain.

We all have pretty strange dreams at times but where's the dividing line between the dreaming and the thinking afterwards - it all blurs into one.

The great thing about dreams is that each is unique. You can't explain or describe it in enough detail to someone else so you have an identical image of anything and I think that's what sets it apart from everything else. It's why I find them amazing. You sit around for weeks wanting a dream and then forget about it and have nights full of them - and wake up and don't remember a single moment; just that you had one! Or did you?

[Susma Rio Sep]

Originally Posted by Anzac

I think that dreams are just a junkyard for the days thoughts, but then I'll just be having a normal kip and all of a sudden someone's face who I haven't seen or thought of in years will just appear out of the blue and it's that random element that I can't seem to explain.

We all have pretty strange dreams at times but where's the dividing line between the dreaming and the thinking afterwards - it all blurs into one.

The great thing about dreams is that each is unique. You can't explain or describe it in enough detail to someone else so you have an identical image of anything and I think that's what sets it apart from everything else. It's why I find them amazing. You sit around for weeks wanting a dream and then forget about it and have nights full of them - and wake up and don't remember a single moment; just that you had one! Or did you?

Dreams are better than any entertainments outside the mind, and convenient and economical, even nightmares, provided you wake up from them.

Now, if we could only manage to dream at will and plan the dreams we want. What a time we will have!

If you know of any sure method of producing dreams as we fall asleep and planning the kinds we want, let me know.

I have been searching along this direction; so far nothing but those guys trying to make money offering to teach you interpretation of dreams. Nonsense. Who wants dream interpretations, when the dreams are good enough themselves -- for very good entertainment.

Susma Rio Sep

[SchiZo]

Originally Posted by Susma Rio Sep

Now, if we could only manage to dream at will and plan the dreams we want. What a time we will have!

Susma Rio Sep

It seems you have an interest in what could be called "Lucid Dreaming", where an individual gains consciousness in his state of dreaming, i.e. while in the middle of a dream.... you say to your self "Hey I'm dreaming". From that point on, with a little practice, you could control/command the dream to shape itself to your liking. You could fly at will, or have an orgasm with that girl you've been thinking about for so long. Your only limit is your imagination.

Here is a link to start you off; http://www.lucidity.com/ check out the FAQ.

If you want more resources, I could look into it for you.

[alexa]

Originally Posted by Susma Rio Sep

Dreams are better than any entertainments outside the mind, and convenient and economical, even nightmares, provided you wake up from them.

Now, if we could only manage to dream at will and plan the dreams we want. What a time we will have!

Susma Rio Sep

An your life then ? I thought we made our dreems come true in an awaken state.

Dreems are nice (at least some of them) and important for our subconcious mind. But don't try to do a purpose of your life with them ! We have all of us, only one chance to live.

Take a brake when you are tired, but do not abandon hope for a better day. As long as we live, there is always hope.

If you need a not expensive entertainment, just take a walk in the nature. Life is a miracle ! Do not close your eyes and say to yourself : only in dream I can live.

You can program your mind to have a lucid dream. You can also see the future with them, if you really want to. But don't forget one thing : lucid dreems will give you after a while an emptyness. When you see the future, when you talk about it, you can change it. Or it won't be like in your dream and make you confuse.

Anyway, the purpose of life is to live it. so, please don't forget this when you are our of your dreem !

Have a nice day,

Alexa

[granni]

good evening folks........ did a search on 'dreams', and found this thread.

yes, I Brian, i've had dreams of the 'future'.

i was nearly 26 years old (my...that was a long time ago), and pregnant with my second child, the very early stage...still no tummy. my husband was in the u.s.a.f. at the time, and we were at a state-side air-base.
we awoke that morning, and i said,
"i've just had the most extrodinary dream! it was sooooo Real!"
and i told him about it. the working in a huge factory setting. the rows and rows of some kind of paper files. and me, waiting-my-turn, by a machine that would do something with the cards in my hand, thinking "if they just had more copies......!!". and some man standing at a counter speaking to me............"
he looked at me with the usual 'blow off' expression.... left for work, and i went on with my housewife duties and tending our 10 month old son.

our daughter was 6 weeks old in 1969, when he received his orders for an unaccompanied tour overseas. i'd be going to california to be close to his family for the year he'd be gone.

we arrived in california. found an apartment for the children and i, and off he went to school, prepretory for his assignment. then, he left. and we were all alone.

i, gratefully, got a job with lockheed. in the blueprint department. things were going nicely... as nicely as can be expected for seperated spouses, and raising a family alone while daddy was away in late 1970.

i dropped the kids, 9 months and 27 months old, off at their aunt's and went to work that morning. it was foggy. grey. dreary. clocked in. and went to work. doing what i did every day.

the ticket at the counter requested a specific blueprint. so i went back into the rows and rows of print files to seek that alpha-numeric print. i hated the dustiness of those rows.... found the section empty. thought, "dog-gone-it!", and went to the microfilm draws to get the necessary cards. found them. checked them for latest updates, and went to stand in line to wait my turn at the mircofilm-repro machine. as i stood there thinking, "if only they had more copies in file......!", a man at the counter called out, "who's got my request, # such and such?", i said, "i do. it'll be ready in a moment."...... and the dream of nearly 1 1/2 years ago flashed before my eyes as if on an invisible screen.

i was suddenly living both scenes at the same time. the dream scene, super-imposed over the one i was living. at the same time, i actually wondered which one was real. then, just as suddenly, everything regained normalacy.

i was stunned. captivated. and, intrigued.

today, i don't think of them as something abnormal. rather, i look forward to them with anticipation.

i've learned to differenciate the dream states that i experience.

i've dreamed of things we'd refer to as.....past; future; other-wheres; learning/teaching dreams; spiritual; and plain ol ordinary run of the mill dreams.

it's been a marvelous journey........at times, mindboggeling. and, always....astounding.


granni

[Aylward]

Hi, I googles "my dreams tell the future" and fonud this forum, so, I've had prophetic dreams at seemingly random times occasionally since the of about 5 or 6.

I seem most likely to have a prophetic dream when im depressed

Lately i've been dreaming dark and cryptic things, like 2 shooting stars, and me saying "may god help us all" for example

and a few months ago, i dreamt of two burning houses, and the next day on the news there are 2 seperate stories about peoples burned bodies being found, stuff like that

and another dream about a year ago, where i got strangled by an inbvisible force, 2 nights later someone strangled me, id never had a dream of being strangled and id never been strangled before, so, that was nice

im missing out lots of detail in these dreams because im tired and stuff.. but hopefully it makes sense...

lately ive become rather paranoid of things, certainly the world seems a much darker place after recent world events, maybe its to do with that

[InLove]

Hello, Aylward, and welcome to CR . Glad you posted on this thread, or I might not have seen it for a while.

Yes, oh yes--it happens to me all the time. It fascinates me and frightens me all at once, and when I have a disturbing dream, I am torn about whether I should say something--I think I don't because I don't know at the time if it is (I almost hate to use the word) "psychic" or not. When I have these dreams, they are not usually directly associated with my personal life and daily happenings, although I have had them about events in a family member's future. But the ones that have nothing to do with anyone I know are the ones that, well, frankly frighten me when they actually happen, maybe because after they happen, I wonder if I might have prevented them if I had realized. But then, who would take me seriously, and what would happen to my life after I was right (or wrong) a couple of times? It is great to be able to speak in a forum about it, to say it with a screen name and have input from others with similar experiences.

I don't consider myself a psychic at all, and really haven't taken the time to study the subject much. I think I may have spent years being afraid to study it--but it is probably time to start investigating a little more.

I almost wonder if this "sensitivity" runs in families, because my mother experienced these kinds of dreams often. The most vivid was two planes colliding in mid-air. Maybe I remember it because she told me she had a strange, upsetting dream the night before, and later that day, there was a live radio report about the event she had described. I am not hypothesizing that this phenomenom is genetic, necessarily, but maybe has more to do with spiritual environment. I would be interested in hearing what others think about this, as well.

Big step for me to say anything at all, but it is time.

InPeace,
InLove

[Aylward]

Hi, I've been away for a few days, thats why I havent replied.

I think the thing we have in common is our value for truth.

We believe that anything is possible and try to keep a completely open mind.

I think this opens us up to something closer to our true potential.

However, whilst my dreams/little visions have never harmed or threatened me, to the contrary even quite disturbing things are presented in a peaceful way, but, I've had one supposed psychic tell me I'm going to die soon.

My dreams often relate to death, when I have them, which is kind of worrying.

I worry about where the dreams come from. Maybe I should concentrate on definite reality instead. - Because I don't dream all the time, but I do always wake up to the same crap.

I'm mostly a peaceful person, but lately I've been extremely angry with the world and a lot of the people in it. I've had enough of the wicked bastards that comprise about 40% of the population... why is the minority so hard to avoid?! It's like wherever you go theres a gang of the little bastards just waiting to trip you somehow.. It's crap, crap crap crap..

Anyway.. Maybe this is relevent, when I tend to think about the Judeo-Christian loving God, I dont seem to have these dreams, whether this is a pointer to the fallacy of belief in God, or the inherent power of his name i have no idea at all.

I can trust nothing but myself I guess.

I think I should refuse to react to my dreams, and just view them with interest instead of fear or possible purpose.

The universe tells me very little, and I think as a result I should give very little.


The first dream I had that I considered a premonition was when I was about 4, The night before a school day I dreamt of a map, and the next day in class, the first thing I saw was this map, not exactly as it was in the dream, but similar enough to spark the memory of the dream, of course s ince then Ive had much more convincing dreams.

The most impossible of which was being randomly strangled, which was incidentally a terrifying dream, there was a mirror in it, and for the next 2 days I was afraid to look in mirrors, until after I was strangled, when I looked in the mirror and saw my eyes bloodshot and little capillaries burst, just like in the dream where my eyes were all bloody... awesome.

[truthseeker]

Hello, Aylward. Welcome to CR. I hope you enjoy your stay as I have.

If you don't mind me butting in, I have dreams to. Most people do. I think the difference is the connection we have with spirituality. The spiritual connection you have with yourself, the people around you, with God, with the devil (negative-positive energy, whatever you call it), etc. Mostly what you believe, but not necessarily. Sometimes these kinds of things (like the dreams) will encourage you to come to some spiritual basis in which you can grow and learn how to use that - if you choose to. Or you can largely ignore it and over time have no spiritual awareness at all.

Originally Posted by Aylward

I think the thing we have in common is our value for truth.

We believe that anything is possible and try to keep a completely open mind.

I think this opens us up to something closer to our true potential.

Don't take for granted that you do have an 'inside connection' to the 'outside'.

... My dreams often relate to death, when I have them, which is kind of worrying.

Your dreams can very well be channeled by what you are spiritually connected to.

...I think I should refuse to react to my dreams, and just view them with interest instead of fear or possible purpose.

But you have to be true to yourself. If you are a person of purpose then you can't shut that down because you have dreams; you'll lose yourself and still have the dreams. You should be more afraid of losing the essence of you.

The universe tells me very little, and I think as a result I should give very little.

If you are having these dreams, the universe is telling you quite a bit.

The most impossible of which was being randomly strangled, which was incidentally a terrifying dream, there was a mirror in it, and for the next 2 days I was afraid to look in mirrors, until after I was strangled, when I looked in the mirror and saw my eyes bloodshot and little capillaries burst, just like in the dream where my eyes were all bloody... awesome.

Indeed, it is awesome. Your dreams are quite profound, eh? Sounds like you know what is going to happen before it does. Change your connection.

[Aylward]

Change my connection?

Please elaborate.

[Faithfulservant]

Hey Brian.. did you ever think that you may be dreaming someone elses life.. and maybe that person is dreaming yours? Stuff like that trips me out.

[Tao_Equus]

I have had many many experiences which suggest to me some kind of future-seeing is at work. Unfortunately all the dreams I have felt to have a premonitionary air to them have come to nothing. But those that I have had while fully awake, lucid and sober () are another matter entirely. It can be a place, and object, a song or simply a word that stimulates me to feel what I would describe as a reverse deja-vu, (ie I get the sense something will happen as against the sense that this has happened before.) These tend to represent pivotal events in my life and have happened sometime a decade preceeding thier fruition.
People have tended to suggest here on this thread that premonition can give you the opportunity to change the course of events.......I am however more sceptical. I am more swayed to the camp that believes our perception of time to be an illusion with us experincing it in a linear way for any number of practical reasons. Thats not to say I wouldnt like to have the opportunity to go back and change some things though.

[wil]

Journaling is one of the best helps for dreams. Getting up in the morning and writing the dream starts all the memories flowing out, all the details and parts you didn't remember at first.

Putting a date to each dream and any interpretation you feel about it is valuable as well.

Leave space between each dream and each interpretation for future comments.

You can read the dream books, and they have some great interpretations but they aren't yours and often generalities (very popular/common is that everything everyone in the dream is you, differing parts of your psyche establishing a pecking order...sorting out a problem...like watching the devil and angel on a cartoon characters shoulder accept they are played out in chase scenes and crazy dream sequences)

Then go back to your dream journal every few months and read through them. Now you'll be able to identify elements of premonitions, elements of internal thought struggles that have played out, reoccurring themes...and some that simply appear to be entertainment. Leave more notes and dates in the spaces around the dream.

namaste, and sweet dreams,

[_Z_]

I think inspiration can occur in dreams as you all say, so yes keep a pen and paper by your bed. If we think or meditate on a given notion, it is often resolved when we sleep. Some artists and songwriters say that lyrics or missing lines of, would just come to them in the morning. I don’t know as concerns dreaming the future, but dreams have a way of bypassing causality! Even drug induced hallucinations can show you stuff – in much the same way as dreams. Visions are similar in most peoples minds, yet here I would draw a line [depending on the type of vision] as visions are more of a ‘‘meeting’ ‘set in Ether’’.



On a side note; I wonder if there is the knowledge of the age floating around out there – so to say, inventions and inspirations generally are just waiting to be ‘picked up’, kinda like a place of all-knowledge, yet we may only ‘tune into’ that which is relative to our age and the moment. So are inventors, writers, theorists and prophets, simply people who are tuned to this!

Z

[wil]

Even drug induced hallucinations can show you stuff – in much the same way as dreams. Visions are similar in most peoples minds, yet here I would draw a line [depending on the type of vision] as visions are more of a ‘‘meeting’ ‘set in Ether’’.

On a side note; I wonder if there is the knowledge of the age floating around out there – so to say, inventions and inspirations generally are just waiting to be ‘picked up’, kinda like a place of all-knowledge, yet we may only ‘tune into’ that which is relative to our age and the moment. So are inventors, writers, theorists and prophets, simply people who are tuned to this!

Two great topics that demand threads of their own Z!

1. Hallucinegenics are now called entheogenics! God inducing drugs.

2. Inventors...tuning in is the reason for simultaneuos inventions by two inventors w/o knowing about each other! Their brain is on the same frequency and they are working together w/o knowing it. And yes we can tune into all knowledge...ask any question prior to sleep..allow yourself to access the source!

3. Meetings in the ethers...applies somewhat to both of the above, yet also an area where we go to in prayer...that zone of manifestation...faith of a mustard seed...we call it spirit, scientists call it ethers...

I'll wait for the new topics to come up...if they don't I guess I'll start em...

Please return to the dream sequence interupted prior to our side bars...

namaste,