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11-07-2007, 05:08 PM
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Where is the Love???
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
So that he believes 2% there is a god? ;\ Seems low... Won't meet your targets going about it like that....  But yeah, I guess I can see what you're saying... IF the person takes something from them he can I guess come back to it or pass it on or whatever ;\
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11-07-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
Do you know why Jehovah's Witnesses don't like Halloween?
Because they can't stand the thought of strangers knocking on their door!
(Rim shot: badda bing!)
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11-07-2007, 05:51 PM
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Where is the Love???
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
lmao!!! Oh my my my, that be a doozy
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11-07-2007, 07:41 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
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That is always an interesting scripture.... (angels pretending to be humans aye?) I am yet to meet one ;/
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Be careful when dealing with strangers, one never knows when one might be entertaining an angel...
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11-08-2007, 02:14 AM
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Coexistence insha'Allah
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
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In an audience, you're likely to be addressing those who both agree and disagree with you.
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Oh they could all be antiIslamists and I would still get up and speak, I could also speak one on one if invited to do so (I was at the front of the queue when confidence was handed out  ).
It is just the idea of invading someones privacy I think, mentally. Maybe that is just the Brit coming out in me? But I see what you mean, I could find a crowd of jeering hate mongers much easier to handle than a single person telling me to sod off, it seems more personal somehow.
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I have witnessed online before. But it is a rather impersonal approach, imo.
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It does not need to be, you can make it very personal. The site I am registered with has a small profile about you and people contact you that are interested in speaking with you about your faith or conversion. So it is not like a forum where everyone can read what you discuss. It goes through email to begin with but once you get chatting you swap IM addresses, then swap family pictures, talk to peoples children online, etc. It becomes very personal if you befriend them rather than just preach at them. Of course I only do this with women, I do not respond to men that email me but it amazing how quickly you contect witha person this way and teach them about your faith.
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I understand what you mean by going to people who have interest, but how are people going to have an interest if they don't even know?
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You really are such a treasure Dondi. I don't know what Christianity says about sealed hearts but the Quran says Allah closes some hearts and opens others. No amount of preaching can reach a sealed heart. Perhaps Allah has set them on a different path? We cannot change that. That energy is better spent with people who have a little crack that you can pry open.
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My objective is to generate a spark in another person to look at the matter biblically and straightforward and thereby incite ithe interest needed to pursue the matter further.
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I most certainly do understand where you are coming from. There are times I want to climb a mountain and shout so the world can hear about Allah, the truth about Him from my perspective that is (can it be truth if it is from my perspective??).
You go for it, I feel sure you will reach many hearts and turn them toward G-d. He is worth our praise and worship.
Salaam my friend
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11-08-2007, 06:15 AM
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
What do you get when you cross a JW with a unitarian?
Someone who knocks on your door, but doesn't know why.
(It fit)
Seriously, I never tried knocking on people's doors.
Before I became a Christian, some people did knock on my door about Christ (I'm not counting JW's), but there was no follow through. I was nice to them, but they never came back. I even called their church the next day to check them out. And then that sorry little church never called back. At the time, it was a black mark against them.
They gave me more ammunition not to become a Christian.
So I guess my point is that if you are gonna do something, do it right. With the right person, knocking on doors could be a lot of fun!
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11-08-2007, 09:28 AM
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
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Do you know why Jehovah's Witnesses don't like Halloween?
Because they can't stand the thought of strangers knocking on their door!
(Rim shot: badda bing!)
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LOL
or even because of this following ,
ROOTED IN PAGANISM
Halloween’s roots, although not found in the Bible, can be traced back to a pagan origin. The pre-Christian Egyptians, Greeks and Romans all celebrated a festival for the dead. These ancients believed that on these occasions the spirits of the dead returned; therefore food was left for them and lamps were kept burning so they would not lose their way................ yet another falsehood , Jehovahs witnesses have no part in falsehood . 
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11-08-2007, 10:01 AM
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
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Mee... You heard the infamous story of the JW door to door? My friend who is an elder said that this lady went to a rapists door (Alone) and she got away without any harm.... and he was caught a day or two after... She went to see him in prison to ask why he didn't invite her in and you know rape her.... He said because there was the other JW guy standing at the end of the garden path looking down to the doorway..... Spooky eh?
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well when it comes to the preaching work, Jesus did say he would be with his followers until the conclusion of the system of things. matthew 28;19-20 . no one can really say it was true or not . and in bible times Angels did protect Gods servants.
(Hebrews 1:14)
( Daniel 3:25)
Daniel 6:22.
( Acts 5:17-24; 12:6-12)
Acts 27:13-24.
2 Kings 6:15-17)
Psalm 34:7; 91:11. but in this time of the end the preaching work is Jesus concern. dont get me wrong i am not saying that bad things dont happen , but no one can say if the thing you mentioned is true or not .
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11-08-2007, 12:40 PM
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Where is the Love???
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
I know! That is the issue mee... These people... they could be,...... Lying to me..... :| But JW's don't lie! 
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11-08-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
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It does not need to be, you can make it very personal. The site I am registered with has a small profile about you and people contact you that are interested in speaking with you about your faith or conversion. So it is not like a forum where everyone can read what you discuss. It goes through email to begin with but once you get chatting you swap IM addresses, then swap family pictures, talk to peoples children online, etc. It becomes very personal if you befriend them rather than just preach at them. Of course I only do this with women, I do not respond to men that email me but it amazing how quickly you contect witha person this way and teach them about your faith. 
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Well, I'll have to see about this avenue. I don't spend a whole heck of a lot of time online to begin with. But the internet has become a fascinating place to encounter all kinds of people, as this forum has shone. If I can find such a site like you describe above, I might give it a try.
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You really are such a treasure Dondi. I don't know what Christianity says about sealed hearts but the Quran says Allah closes some hearts and opens others. No amount of preaching can reach a sealed heart. Perhaps Allah has set them on a different path? We cannot change that. That energy is better spent with people who have a little crack that you can pry open.
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There are some Christian circles that believe that God specifically chooses who will go to heaven and who will not, and that we have no real choice in the matter. I, for one, do not believe as such. I believe we all have a free will to make choices about what we will believe. But I also believe that in order to make that choice, one must be informed. And that is the whole idea about witnessing the Gospel to people. You present them with the idea of God and they are confronted with the choice of whether to believe or not to believe. Jesus went around preaching to all, but not all accepted the message. Many went away. It is very telling when he said, "They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick." If a person sees no need to come to God, then they won't come. But I do not know a person's spiritual condition. I just plant a seed and hope and pray that something takes hold. A person may just not be ready. But maybe in the near future when he realizes he needs God, he will remember our encounter.
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I most certainly do understand where you are coming from. There are times I want to climb a mountain and shout so the world can hear about Allah, the truth about Him from my perspective that is (can it be truth if it is from my perspective??).
You go for it, I feel sure you will reach many hearts and turn them toward G-d. He is worth our praise and worship. 
Salaam my friend
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Thanks, MW, for your encouragement.
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11-08-2007, 01:26 PM
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
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Originally Posted by pattimax
What do you get when you cross a JW with a unitarian?
Someone who knocks on your door, but doesn't know why.
(It fit)
Seriously, I never tried knocking on people's doors.
Before I became a Christian, some people did knock on my door about Christ (I'm not counting JW's), but there was no follow through. I was nice to them, but they never came back. I even called their church the next day to check them out. And then that sorry little church never called back. At the time, it was a black mark against them.
They gave me more ammunition not to become a Christian.
So I guess my point is that if you are gonna do something, do it right. With the right person, knocking on doors could be a lot of fun!
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That is probably the weak point in visitation: consistent follow-up. We do get quite a few visitors on Sunday. And we have them fill our visitor's cards and try to visit them the following visitation day. We keep record of each visit to the visitor and note whether they are interested enough to visit again. But sometimes we are short on people to go out on visitation and some fall prospects through the cracks. It is unfortunate, and we are striving to improve.
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11-08-2007, 02:50 PM
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
Well, eventually I did come to Christ, it just took me a little longer.
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11-08-2007, 03:06 PM
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UNeyeR1
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
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Originally Posted by Dondi
That is probably the weak point in visitation: consistent follow-up. We do get quite a few visitors on Sunday. And we have them fill our visitor's cards and try to visit them the following visitation day. We keep record of each visit to the visitor and note whether they are interested enough to visit again. But sometimes we are short on people to go out on visitation and some fall prospects through the cracks. It is unfortunate, and we are striving to improve.
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My mom's church has a pie ministry. Any newbie that comes and signs the welcome book gets a pie delivered to their house, along with a thank you, and some pamphlets. A no pressure knock on the door with a gift.
I like that idear.
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11-08-2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
How sweet. Jesus treats!
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11-08-2007, 03:50 PM
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UNeyeR1
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Re: Door-To-Door Missionaries
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How sweet. Jesus treats!
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Yes, and can you imagine the discussion with friends, family, neighbors?
Well how did you pick that church?
Well we were new to town and we were visiting various churches to see what they offered. And some we liked and some we didn't and some left a message thanking us for coming, and others sent someone by to preach the gospel to us, try to get us to sit down and talk about the bible and being saved just as we were trying to pack for a flight home. But these guys, they just called to ask if we'd be home they had a gift to drop by. And they showed up at the door with pie, and gave us some more information on their services and classes, and a CD on what their church is about, and they asked if we had any questions and then they left! So we visited a couple of more times, didn't get anymore pie, but we like the congregation and the message and keep going.... Why, do you want a pie?
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