Does it really have to be so hard, so complicated?

[wil]

Does it really have to be so hard, so complicated?

I think not.

It is interesting FK was cruising through today voicing thoughts regarding the nature of the theosophists, and pure land... and made me think.

Now I guess it is human nature for us to find/discover ends of the spectrums and establish camps at the outposts and everywhere inbetween. And through the contemplation it seems in most religions some find the need to make things complicated and hard. That some or a ton of elements of ritual, dogma, memorization, suffering, denial, is needed in various amounts... And then way down on the other side we find those that take the 'easy' road and believe that source provides, that you don't have to do the song and dance, that it is all quite simple...

Here I am oversimplifying the whole thing for brevity and discussion sake, the easy road ain't always easy, in many ways it has its own ceremony and moments, and the hard road isn't hard for many who are on its path...

But again I wonder...does there have to be a right and wrong?

[Francis king]

no, as there is no right, and no wrong... all is subjective

[Paladin]

Speaking of "subjective", I think the outlook on what "have to be" should be considered. We live and communicate with sentient beings in a dualistic realm. Here we consider relative and absolute concepts, such as we are capable. In this realm are varying levels of development intellectually, morally and spiritually. Knowing who you are dealing with lets you know how to couch your message and what to expect in return. There are those who, no matter how well put the message will not understand. Those who feel they have the ultimate truth and look no further, exacerbating the effect of ego on themselves and others. I believe Christ addressed this when he spoke of the Scribes and Pharisees.
Then there is the confounding idea that once you study the complexities and difficulties of reality and self transformation, you come upon the idea that it is all so clear... so simple... why didn't I see this before?
Should you experience this "aha" moment, and try to tell another you may wind up with frustration and isolation.
See In Love's poem called Dear Sirs

Peace
Mark

[Francis king]

I should have added- no, it doesnt have to be hard and complicated, but it should be accurate

[Nick the Pilot]

Wil,

There are different kinds of people, so we need different kinds of religion. A devotional person is proud to proclaim, "Holy, holy, holy." A mystical person does not go around making any public pronouncements. A scientific person needs to see how it all makes sense, and furthers their spirituality by analyzing ideas. Etc., etc.

The problem is when person A starts telling different-type-person B that A's way is the only way. That is wrong, but it happens all the time.