Do we have souls?

[Bandit]

Quahom1,
The perspective of a ship made things much clearer for me because we can see and/or hear all three elements at work. Where it is kind to hard to see invisible things.
You could even add to that about the spirit of a ship and how it is effected and how it effects what is around it. If this big Navy ship comes plowing through the water it will surely put a BOUNCE on any little boats nearby.
The spirit of the ship would act differently depending on the 'captain' at the wheel as in speed and sharper turns and observing what is ahead.
The spirit of the ship could be tossed by elements of a large storm.
The spirit of the ship would be altered if something is broken inside the engine room.
But the ability (life/soul) to perform well and the structure (body) is still there.

I think I prefer watching the rooster tails of water off the back over the loud engine below. I only went on one cruise and was sick the whole time. I tried being next to the engine room, I tried every level-
until I figured out I had to stay on the main deck and then I would not get sick because I had to SEE the manuevers and not just feel them.
It was awful. ha ha ha

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Bandit

Quahom1,
The perspective of a ship made things much clearer for me because we can see and/or hear all three elements at work. Where it is kind to hard to see invisible things.
You could even add to that about the spirit of a ship and how it is effected and how it effects what is around it. If this big Navy ship comes plowing through the water it will surely put a BOUNCE on any little boats nearby.
The spirit of the ship would act differently depending on the 'captain' at the wheel as in speed and sharper turns and observing what is ahead.
The spirit of the ship could be tossed by elements of a large storm.
The spirit of the ship would be altered if something is broken inside the engine room.
But the ability (life/soul) to perform well and the structure (body) is still there.

I think I prefer watching the rooster tails of water off the back over the loud engine below. I only went on one cruise and was sick the whole time. I tried being next to the engine room, I tried every level-
until I figured out I had to stay on the main deck and then I would not get sick because I had to SEE the manuevers and not just feel them.
It was awful. ha ha ha

Engineers know the secret of keeping a still stomach on tossing seas dear Bandit. You get close to the boilers/engines, and pray that the "fire" does not go out. As long as there is the perception of "forward motion", all is well, at eight bells. A Sailor's "disgrace" is to be caught foundering at sea. That is when we get really sick. The engineroom is the lowest, deepest part of the ship. It truly is the calmest part, with the least movement. Just like the soul of man. One has to get close and deep, to feel the power, and see the spark...Down in the bilges, one does not need to "see the horizon" to find peace.

The two happiest sailors I know of are Boatswain's Mates and Engineers on watch. Bos'ns see, and Engineers hear and feel. Everyone else can't or won't be in places that bring comfort. So they end up being miserable.

You do know why engineers never go up to the bridge if they can help it? Nose bleeds from the altitude really suck. Likewise Bos'ns rarely go down to the "boilers", becuase they don't know how to clear their ears of the "squeeze".

Funny thing is, both are needed to run the ship...just like different beliefs. The soul of man requires guidance from different human interfaces, or different perspectives of God.

v/r

Q