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Old 05-06-2008, 09:11 PM   #76 (permalink)
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See now there is that Thomas fellow I recognize occasionally. Expound on those if you will.
Let me finish my essay first ... pleeeze!

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Old 05-07-2008, 07:13 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I have the text of Irenaeus, btw ... a reference would be useful.
Yes, interesting reads.

Before we look at a quote from Paul, I noted that Irenaeus believed Lazarus's material body did come back to life. When Paul says, "Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God," Irenaeus claims that it means fleshy works cannot enter into heaven, so there is no denial of the physical resurrection here as the opponents claim. In fact, "this same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven" would be interpreted as a physical address to the disciples. Jesus ascended into the sky. Likewise, He will come back in the same manner depicted in the Left Behind series. Irenaeus also believed that Enoch and Elijah ascended in the same way. The bodies who came out of their tombs and "appeared to many people" in the holy city after His resurrection also mean the same thing. According to Irenaeus, these are all undeniable facts.

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Old 05-09-2008, 02:50 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:20 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Debate? Debate is key but there are more required keys.
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