Creationism or evolution?

Jeff · 07-31-2005, 06:05 PM

Creationism or evolution, What are your opinions?

I, Brian · 08-01-2005, 12:03 AM

What is your opinion?

Quahom1 · 08-01-2005, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

Creationism or evolution, What are your opinions?

Both are the same, just looked at with different eyes.

v/r

Q

earl · 08-01-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Both are the same, just looked at with different eyes.

v/r

Q

Quite right Q-the design seems pretty "intelligent" doesn't it?

Take care, Earl

Paladin · 08-01-2005, 01:25 AM

I kind of like what Sri Aurobindo said, that life was a process of involution and evolution.

Peace

Mark

juantoo3 · 08-01-2005, 02:39 AM

Kindest Regards, Jeff!

Actually, we've gone over this subject ad naseum already, if you would care to take a look...

The Evolution Conflict

There are a couple of other minor threads, but this one is pretty in depth, provided you are sincerely asking to find out. I think you will find a great deal of intelligent discussion from both sides, and many religious and non-religious perspectives. Happy reading!

Jeff · 08-01-2005, 04:32 AM

Thanks for the link. This is one of my favorite topics to think and wonder about.

i beleive that evolution is correct, but i am still intriuged by other peoples opinions on this matter.

Awaiting_the_fifth · 08-01-2005, 10:37 AM

Maybe we think that we are evolving but we are actually just in the process of being created. We're not finished yet.

Quahom1 · 08-01-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Awaiting_the_fifth

Maybe we think that we are evolving but we are actually just in the process of being created. We're not finished yet.

What a profound statement...

I like it!

v/r

Q

queenofsheba · 08-01-2005, 12:57 PM

How old is Sherlock Holmes?
- about 40 years, the age of his character?
- about 120 years, since AC Doyle created him?

How old is the universe?
- about 13 billion years, its age according to scientists?
- about 4000 years, since Enlil, Enki and Inana created it?
To understand the beginning of the universe, it's necessary to see "time" in an entirely different way. "Time" is only 13 billion years old. The problem is that our brain can't imagine a reality if it isn't structured in time and space. Interesting literature: Stephen Hawkin: "A Brief History of Time".

Awaiting_the_fifth · 08-01-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by queenofsheba

4000 years, since Enlil, Enki and Inana created it?

Sorry, who, who and who?

queenofsheba · 08-02-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Awaiting_the_fifth

Sorry, who, who and who?

Enlil, Enki and Inana. They are Mesopotamian gods and the first chapter of Genesis is largely based on their creation myths. Genesis uses the word "Elohim", which is the plural of "El", another name for Enlil and his relatives.
It was only later that theologists decided that Elohim and YHWH are to be considered one and the same god.
Enlil and Enki are brothers, Inana is Enlil's wife. Enlil also caused the flud, but Enki saved Noah.

Silverbackman · 08-18-2005, 12:33 PM

Why couldn't God use evolution to create the universe and the world? Why is their conflict between evolution and creationism? There is really no need, evolution is science, it does not mean to conflict religion, if people will open their minds it will actually work.

Abogado del Diablo · 08-18-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverbackman

Why couldn't God use evolution to create the universe and the world? Why is their conflict between evolution and creationism? There is really no need, evolution is science, it does not mean to conflict religion, if people will open their minds it will actually work.

There certainly could be. And many scientists who accept the overwhelming evidence of evolution are also theists. But that's not what the controversy is about. The real issue is for those who read ancient texts as literal - treating Creation accounts as though they were scientific treatises. For that group, human knowledge and observation is juxtaposed against literal meaning of their Revelation and must be attacked regardless of the scientific method.

Science and Religion are in harmony. But in a fractured mind, the two can be made to appear in combat with one another.

Kelcie · 08-19-2005, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Abogado del Diablo

Science and Religion are in harmony. But in a fractured mind, the two can be made to appear in combat with one another.

Hi Abogado del Diablo,

I agree with this. If we go on the premise that God is in all things, we will see he is in both science and in religion. Creationism and Evolutionism.

Kelcie

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juantoo3 ~~~~~~~~~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Gator Country, FL, USA Posts: 4,068	Re: Creationism or evolution? Kindest Regards, Jeff! Actually, we've gone over this subject ad naseum already, if you would care to take a look... The Evolution Conflict There are a couple of other minor threads, but this one is pretty in depth, provided you are sincerely asking to find out. I think you will find a great deal of intelligent discussion from both sides, and many religious and non-religious perspectives. Happy reading!

08-01-2005, 04:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jeff 42 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 16	Re: Creationism or evolution? Thanks for the link. This is one of my favorite topics to think and wonder about. i beleive that evolution is correct, but i am still intriuged by other peoples opinions on this matter.

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Awaiting_the_fifth Where is my mind? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Middlesbrough, UK Posts: 602	Re: Creationism or evolution? Maybe we think that we are evolving but we are actually just in the process of being created. We're not finished yet.

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queenofsheba Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ethiopia Posts: 66	Re: Creationism or evolution? How old is Sherlock Holmes? - about 40 years, the age of his character? - about 120 years, since AC Doyle created him? How old is the universe? - about 13 billion years, its age according to scientists? - about 4000 years, since Enlil, Enki and Inana created it? To understand the beginning of the universe, it's necessary to see "time" in an entirely different way. "Time" is only 13 billion years old. The problem is that our brain can't imagine a reality if it isn't structured in time and space. Interesting literature: Stephen Hawkin: "A Brief History of Time".

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Silverbackman Prince Of Truth Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 263	Re: Creationism or evolution? Why couldn't God use evolution to create the universe and the world? Why is their conflict between evolution and creationism? There is really no need, evolution is science, it does not mean to conflict religion, if people will open their minds it will actually work.

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