Come on please...

[taijasi]

Let's see ... Benny Hinn, or Benny Hill, or whatever ... and all the other charismatic healers on TV - umm, gee, ya think they might be charlatans?

First off - no one is truly healed unless they are ready. Their karma must be such that the Soul is essentially ready, otherwise to fully heal that person would be a violation of Divine Law.

Jesus certainly knew this fact, and he observed it. Never did he transgress it. In some cases, he would not heal because he could not. The Soul/person wasn't ready. The most that could be done is to help a person move just forward enough in his/her understanding to become karmically ready for healing. Then and then only could Jesus (or another) heal someone who otherwise wasn't quite ready.

Of course, symptoms can sometimes be alleviated in such a way that healing appears to have occurred. But karma will revisit this person, often quite soon, and the root problem will re-manifest. This is the law.

The numbers of folks who can somehow affect a healing (whether directly, or at a distance) on others - "by the power of the Holy Spirit," or whatever you like to call it - is legion. But even of these, there are only a few who really understand the nature of the gift, or the means whereby it operates. Fewer still can really control it, or direct the energies intelligently. This doesn't mean they shouldn't heal (!) ... but it means they should be careful. Many healers do damage, making matters worse, due to their complete ignorance of the nature of their gift.

Fortunately, some healers do understand what's really taking place. These individuals are in touch with the Soul, and they are therefore able to communicate with the Soul of the person to be healed. It becomes revealed to them what the desired healing (if any) should be. Often times, this is death. A pity there is so much fear, loathing, and avoidance of the greatest healing of all! Release should be accepted for what it is, and when this is the will of the Soul, how fortunate for that person!

Televangelist healers? hogwash! I have seldom been so disgusted as when I accidentally miss the button on the remote and get stuck on one of those channels for more than a split second. I would not say every one of such charlatans is exactly the same - or all bad. Perhaps one or two actually mean well. Indeed, give a man (or woman) ... (oh wait, there really are no women fraud televangelist healer types - I wonder why) ... the benefit of the doubt. But I have watched them before. Why would I do so again?

-andrew

[mee]

Evidently, with the death of the apostles, the transmittal of the gifts of the spirit ended, and the miraculous gifts of the spirit ceased altogether as those who had received these gifts passed off the earthly scene

However, these miraculous gifts marked the infancy of the Christian congregation and were foretold to cease. In fact, even Jesus indicated that his followers would be identified, not by their performance of powerful works, but by their love for one another.

Now, however, there remain faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love....1 corinthians 13;13

By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.....John 13;35

[ETS2K]

Yeah the third eye strange currency that, see it's about balance for every + there must be a - "Karma" is about that it's the only truth causuality now that's 4th eye talk to religious selics who have tunnel vision anyhow the truth people are affaraid of the truth I guess, True Freedom is to realize you have nothing to loose & nothing to gain...

[China Cat Sunflower]

Ever notice how televangelists and pro wrestling seem to have the same audience?

Chris

[flowperson]

I used to watch pro-wrestling on B&W TV in the old days with my grandma when she was sitting me on weekends.

I'd rather watch reruns of Benny Hill, may his eternally hilarious soul rest in eternal peace, than watch Benny Hinn live, if there are such broadcasts. The only thing well- healed on the Hinn shows is his bank account probably.

flow....

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by flowperson

I used to watch pro-wrestling on B&W TV in the old days with my grandma when she was sitting me on weekends.

I'd rather watch reruns of Benny Hill, may his eternally hilarious soul rest in eternal peace, than watch Benny Hinn live, if there are such broadcasts. The only thing well- healed on the Hinn shows is his bank account probably.

flow....

Well, there is always Robert Schueler and his crystal cathedral...

[Azure24]

People who go probably think they really will be healed. Sometimes this is enough. Read my thread 'The power of Belief' and donate some money to me (by listing some of your details) if you don't believe me .(Only joking!)

[Granny "G"]

hmmm....methinks the vast majority of TV "healings" are marketing ploys for money. Benny Hinn, in my opinion, has hurt the Christian cause as badly as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Another TV "evangelist" who I find extremely distasteful is Kenneth Copeland. His whole schtick is organized around his claims that he has a direct line to the almighty who constantly tells him how to get people to write bigger checks. *sigh*

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Granny "G"

hmmm....methinks the vast majority of TV "healings" are marketing ploys for money. Benny Hinn, in my opinion, has hurt the Christian cause as badly as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Another TV "evangelist" who I find extremely distasteful is Kenneth Copeland. His whole schtick is organized around his claims that he has a direct line to the almighty who constantly tells him how to get people to write bigger checks. *sigh*

Yes...the "almighty greenback"

v/r

Q

[ETS2K]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Ok Just thought of something that has allways bothered me, yet I haven't spoken of it since I joined these forums.... The healing thing you see on TV.... They all sing and dance, put a Hell of alot of cash in the boxes... Someone comes up on stage, the preacher smacks him in the face an BAM he is healed... How much reality is there behind this.... Also what type of Christian chruch follows this way.... ?

17th Angel sounds cool in the Matrix:

"Everytime you hear someone say they saw a ghost or an angel, every story you've heard about vampires & wearwolfs it's the system assimilating something it's not supposed to be doing"

I believe that yes we are part of a system & like a computer system files tend to become corrupt, but being part of a system one can refer to this system as a system within a system thus a Matrix type structure. Now if one looks at as an example old cobol programmes running the banking systems even today well so many different threads of code have been written within these programmes that if one brakes down you simply cannot go in & delete it this would bring the whole programme come crashing down, thus you write a patch a quick fix programme a programme that sort of comes & shows the other programmes the way, they then follow & the original programme then operates @ a level that should be fine.

God well perhaps he is like this coder who coded Life as we know it & sent Jesus as a patch but alas the system as it is know gets even more corrupted thus I fear perhaps he would soon use the reboot universe command. See Jesus preached about what you show you shall reap & if one looks @ Buhddism (spelling) well Karma forms that basis if you are like me well I see the bigger pick & well I know that for every + there is a - this is there to create this balance that we call reality. Anyhow people like me end up being alone cause there are not a lot of people who simply cannot grasp this, this logical being that we call God & yes we end up being alone my mission is to look for her I know somwhere out there is my chicky babe who will fit into my sphere who knows...