"Church" does not mean the "Roman Catholic Church"

[Bruce Michael]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Ah. I follow a different book. Mine is Scripture, the Wisdom of the Word of God, "for both the Jews require signs, and the Greeks seek after wisdom" 1 Corinthians 1:22.

Thomas

Errrr. I don't get what your saying... There were no books in the time of Adam Kadmon- certainly none of paper and print!

It's a funny thing, I was just listening to a radio program today that described how the Jesuits promoted scepticism in defence against Protestantism. The Protestants wanted to find their all in Scripture!

There you go,
Br. Bruce

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Ah. I follow a different book. Mine is Scripture, the Wisdom of the Word of God, "for both the Jews require signs, and the Greeks seek after wisdom" 1 Corinthians 1:22.

Thomas

Originally Posted by Bruce Michael

Errrr. I don't get what your saying... There were no books in the time of Adam Kadmon- certainly none of paper and print!

It's a funny thing, I was just listening to a radio program today that described how the Jesuits promoted scepticism in defence against Protestantism. The Protestants wanted to find their all in Scripture!

There you go,
Br. Bruce

Perhaps Luke chapter 18 (in it's entirety,) might help you to understand.

Originally Posted by excerpt

31 Then He took the twelve aside and said to them, “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of Man will be accomplished. 32 For He will be delivered to the Gentiles and will be mocked and insulted and spit upon. 33 They will scourge Him and kill Him. And the third day He will rise again.”
34 But they understood none of these things; this saying was hidden from them, and they did not know the things which were spoken.

[Bruce Michael]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Perhaps Luke chapter 18 (in it's entirety,) might help you to understand.

Hello,
Do you understand the concept of "Adam Kadmon"?
Greetings,
Br.Bruce

[Thomas]

Originally Posted by Bruce Michael

Errrr. I don't get what your saying...

I mean the Word as revealed in Scripture.

Thomas

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Bruce Michael

Hello,
Do you understand the concept of "Adam Kadmon"?
Greetings,
Br.Bruce

As referred to (not by that name) in 1 Corinthians chapter 2, the chapter immediately following that Thomas cited? (Please understand that I have a different vocabulary than you.)
Kinda like {but not quite like} Purusha, as contrasted to Prakriti, in the Samkhya tradition?

[Nick the Pilot]

Bruce and Seattle Gal,

I see this line-up of meanings.

1st Logos; Purusha
2nd Logos; Prakriti (actually Mulaprakriti)
3rd Logos; Adam Kadmon

How does that fit your belief systems?

[Bruce Michael]

Originally Posted by Nick the Pilot

Bruce and Seattle Gal,

I see this line-up of meanings.

1st Logos; Purusha
2nd Logos; Prakriti (actually Mulaprakriti)
3rd Logos; Adam Kadmon

How does that fit your belief systems?

Hi Br.Nick,

I'm not sure why the "Gal" is bringing that up. Adam Kadmon is the first Man before the Fall.

-Br.Bruce

[AndrewX]

This may be helpful:

'Adam Qadmon (Hebrew) [from 'adam mankind + qadam to be before, precede] Primordial man, Adam Primus; in the Qabbalah macrocosmic man in contrast to the earthly Adam, the microcosm. Often called the Heavenly Man because symbolically he is the Sephirothal Tree of Life, each of the Sephiroth having its correspondence with a part of the body, the head being Kether (Crown), and the feet standing for Malchuth (Kingdom). 'Adam Qadmon corresponds mystically to the Hindu Purusha: both are generalizing terms used to represent the cosmic Logos or hierarch of their respective hierarchies.
Blavatsky compares 'Adam Qadmon to the first manu, Svayambhuva, "the synthesis of the fourteen Manus" (TG 206); also to the Greek Prometheus and the divine Pymander of the Hermetica -- the power of the thought divine "in its most spiritual aspect" (IU 1:298).

[Bruce Michael]

Br. Andrew speaks out,

Adam Qadmon corresponds mystically to the Hindu Purusha:

Can anyone explain why this would be so?

-Br.Bruce

[AndrewX]

Originally Posted by Bruce Michael

Br. Andrew speaks out,

Adam Qadmon corresponds mystically to the Hindu Purusha:

Can anyone explain why this would be so?

-Br.Bruce

A quick'n'dirty Theosophical angle, which admittedly is a bit of a surface treatment, will have to do with the Trinity - or Trimurti, if we wish - of Divine Energies or Aspects.

The Manu represents Ray 1. The Bodhisattva (Christ, World Teacher) is on the Ray 2 line (also, the Buddha). And the Maha Chohan, or `Lord of Civilization,' is the head of the Ray 3 line.

Here is Will, Love-Wisdom, and Activity (or Active Intellect) ... and of all of these, which line was taught, again and again in Theosophical literature, as also in the Vedas, as having the most to do with the evolution of the human FORM(s), the RACE itself ... and not our culture, society, religion, or modes of civilization?

Ahhh, the line of the Manu! Manu, after all, not a "man" - err, except it's where we get this word from ... Manu, Manas ... but Manu, a great Prototype (Adam Qadmon), a Divine Type, occasionally embodied in outermost physical (or even subtler) expression, as the PATTERN for the following Race, sub-race, branch race, etc.

Polarian Manu, Hyporborean Manu, Lemurian Manu, Atlantean Manu, and Root Race 5, the Aryan, Vaivasvata Manu. All of these, but subsidiary, minor expressions of One, Greater Manu (a `Being' or Type of much vaster Evolutionary-Divine Scale) ... Svayambhuva.

I think there was a hair in that bit of regurgitation. It might beg splitting, I dunno. The Water-Brother was fond of saying, "I'm only an Egg!"

Namaskar,

andrew