Christianity Vs Baha’i

[Postmaster]

Just as life has been wiped out before are very eyes by planes crashing into towers and just as life has been wiped out before are very eyes by waters experienced by Noah and present day far east.. Baha'i says life is a progress and we are heading for a golden age, well I hate to tell baha'i but the Romans and Greeks once had a golden age too, life is a process... History repeats people don't change, the person changes. No one is going to change the eyes of a Chinese person and no one is going to change the colour of a black mans skin, God made these beautiful people, we all prefer are own type just as a mother prefers it's child and that's they way God made it, why does he wan't to change it?

[lunamoth]

Change your worldview and change your world.

peace
lunamoth

[Postmaster]

Mine has changed, people have been inter racial couples and inter faith couples for thousands of years, all you have to do is open a history book.. You simply can't change Gods world for the world it is suppose to be. I'm a cynical, hypocritical, Christian, pessimist, I suppose what I say doesn't want to be heard but probably more true. Alexander the Great got all his soldiers to take Persian wives and they did and had kids, yet we have nothing to show for it today. He even recruited many many Persia soldiers in his army, yet we nothing to show for it today. He wanted to unify the world, not even he could do it and any faith claiming to be promoting inter racial and inter faith marriages is just as guilty of creating yet an other human division. 1000 years after Alexander the Great, Muhhamad tries the same stunt, claiming he was sent by God, Alexander the great was claiming to be a God so what's the difference? Nothing, further division was created by both these people and nothing to show for today yet more divisions.

[path_of_one]

This thread looks more like pessimism vs. optimism to me after reading it. Neat quotes from Baha'i though. I guess I'm just a realist. I think the world will continue as a "process" until people understand that it is we who make it that way and make it "progress." I'm all for anything that generates a connection to God and peace and love for others. We need all the hope and transformation we can get to counteract the apathy and depression in everybody who believes their lives don't matter in the world.

Like luna said, a change in perspective changes one's world. If enough people change their perspectives, it changes others' worlds.

[Postmaster]

There is one thing I have noticed and Politicians sell you dreams too, they do this in order to win votes... Jesus Christ is still right today when he explained to us that there is a dark side of the after life that people can go to if they take wrong paths and out of all fairness if we are the masters of our souls, why not? He spoke of truth and of course it pissed off many paganists at the time, I don't believe for one minute though that if you’re not a Christian you won't go to heaven (Christianity doesn't even say that?) Although of course the bible has stricter teachings, of course they should be After all each person lives his life on a different level, the bible shows the ultimately right path we should take, but the bible tells us that no human is free of sin it also tells us God is forgiving. I’m not sure how heaven and hell compares to the Baha’i faith but if I’m not mistaken Christianity puts more weight on evil, the devil, his doings and his effects. Cynical and pessimistic views things which wouldn’t win you many votes in an election, yet truthful and down to earth. If I'm not mistaken though, the more passive the religion, the greater acknowledgment of evil, dark, negative force.

[path_of_one]

I would propose that it is only certain "flavors" of Christianity that are focused on the bad stuff of the world and passivity. Passivity does not equal peaceful. One can be non-violent but actively striving toward peace and love. The Quakers and Amish are both non-violent but very active in creating the kind of world they feel reflects the Kingdom of Heaven. It just depends on your focus.

As far as I've seen, all Christians recognize the bad/evil of this world. The difference is in their reactions to it. Some think it's all Satan (as in an evil demi-god-like being that is ruler over the world) and the End Times and there is nothing we can or should do about it. Others think it's all Satan (as a metaphor for our own internal evils) and there is everything we can and should do about it. One is a pessimistic view and one is optimistic, but both are realistic in that they acknowledge the problems of this world.

For me, I always end up thinking- so even if it is the End Times, would Jesus want us to just give up? To not bother to try, against all odds, to make peace, to alleviate poverty, to promote equality? I always become optimistic when I remember I have God at my side... "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." The faith of a mustard seed will move mountains... and I truly believe that if enough of us truly had faith like Jesus talked about, our world would change. "The Kingdom of Heaven is in your midst..."

[9Harmony]

Originally Posted by Postmaster

.. Baha'i says life is a progress and we are heading for a golden age, well I hate to tell baha'i but the Romans and Greeks once had a golden age too, life is a process... History repeats people don't change, the person changes. No one is going to change the eyes of a Chinese person and no one is going to change the colour of a black mans skin, God made these beautiful people, we all prefer are own type just as a mother prefers it's child and that's they way God made it, why does he wan't to change it?

Hi Postmaster,

You are correct, God made humanity diverse, we are like different flowers in the garden of life, all beautiful in our own unique ways, God does not want to change that.

But may I ask, as a Christian, do you believe the Lords Prayer? "Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in heaven..." This is the Golden Age that Baha'i's refer to. The fulfillment of God's decree.

"So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." - Isaiah, 55:11

Have a nice day!

Loving Greetings, Amy