can we agree that tormenting people for all time is wrong no matter what? - Page 7

Tao_Equus · 07-19-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by brucegdc

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.... Bruce

Ok thank you Bruce, never felt the need to do so before, but this was exceptional.

Tao

mee · 07-22-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Bashing trinitarians is not exactly condusive to the faith Mee...

I suggest you give it a rest.

v/r

Q

but sticking to true bible teaching is the way to go, as it leads to great blessings from Jesus .matthew 24;45-47 . and did not Jesus himself expose false teachings, and looking to Jesus as our example and model is the way to go . Jesus was never afraid to make known the truth .

Pico · 07-22-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

but sticking to true bible teaching is the way to go, as it leads to great blessings from Jesus .matthew 24;45-47 . and did not Jesus himself expose false teachings, and looking to Jesus as our example and model is the way to go . Jesus was never afraid to make known the truth .

You don't believe in the Trinity? Then why did Jesus say to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? Why after Jesus was baptized did the Holy Spirit come down on him after he was baptized? Why is blasphemy against the Father and Son forvigeable, but not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? Obviously the Holy Spirit is God, along with the Father and Son.

mee · 07-24-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico

You don't believe in the Trinity? Then why did Jesus say to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? Why after Jesus was baptized did the Holy Spirit come down on him after he was baptized? Why is blasphemy against the Father and Son forvigeable, but not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? Obviously the Holy Spirit is God, along with the Father and Son.

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. John 17;3 the holy spirit is a force in motion , and when the holy spirit is behind something great things are accomlished .
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14 nothing can stop Gods purpose from being accomplished ,when it has the backing of the holy spirit behind it. ....even under opposition .... staying faithful and not taking on manmade doctrines means great blessing matthew 24;45-47

BlaznFattyz · 07-24-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mee

the holy spirit is a force in motion...

thats a very poor definition and is lacking in many ways.

Pico · 07-24-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

thats a very poor definition and is lacking in many ways.

Straight-up. The Holy Spirit is a person, not just a force.

Here's some interesting points in this article I found about the trinity:

1. John 1 - "The Word was WITH God and the Word was GOD" - a VERY simple statement of pure-and-simple plurality-in-unity.
2. This Word (i.e. Jesus Christ) prayed to the Father in heaven. (numerous places)
3. This Jesus would send the Holy Spirit from the Father in heaven, after his departure from earth. (John 14-17)
4. This Spirit could be grieved (Ephs 4) and lied to (Acts 5), and made sovereign decisions (I Cor 12:11 etc.)
5. These three are listed co-equally and co-ordinately in the baptismal formula (Matt 28) and the Benediction (2 Cor 13:14).

Dondi · 07-24-2007, 09:31 PM

This could get nasty.

*Pulls up a chair with a bag of popcorn*

Tao_Equus · 07-24-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico

Then why did Jesus say....

Omg, you too are 2000 years old and happened to be in just the right place to hear it!! Aint life just full of such incredible coincidences!!

Faithfulservant · 07-24-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Omg, you too are 2000 years old and happened to be in just the right place to hear it!! Aint life just full of such incredible coincidences!!

Scoffer..

Tao_Equus · 07-24-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Scoffer..

I have a healthy appetite, and yes my table manners are a little rough

Faithfulservant · 07-24-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

I have a healthy appetite, and yes my table manners are a little rough

Its ok God still loves you

juantoo3 · 07-25-2007, 01:39 AM

Kindest Regards, Tao!

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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

I have a healthy appetite, and yes my table manners are a little rough

Do you mean to tell us you eat like a...ahhhh...horse?

mee · 07-25-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

thats a very poor definition and is lacking in many ways.

SPIRIT
The Greek pneu´ma (spirit) comes from pne´o, meaning "breathe or blow," and the Hebrew ru´ach (spirit) is believed to come from a root having the same meaning. Ru´ach and pneu´ma, then, basically mean "breath" but have extended meanings beyond that basic sense. (Compare Hab 2:19; Re 13:15.) They can also mean wind; the vital force in living creatures; one’s spirit; spirit persons, including God and his angelic creatures; and God’s active force, or holy spirit. (Compare Koehler and Baumgartner’s Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros, Leiden, 1958, pp. 877-879; Brown, Driver, and Briggs’ Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament, 1980, pp. 924-926; Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, edited by G. Friedrich, translated by G. Bromiley, 1971, Vol. VI, pp. 332-451.) All these meanings have something in common: They all refer to that which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in motion. Such invisible force is capable of producing visible effects.