Can I have evidence/proof of Islams divinity?

[Turok76]

I am not Muslim, or of any religion for that matter, and I am curious as to how Islam justifies itself to be the true religion of God? There are several religions out there and plenty of them give fairly good explanation as to why theirs is. What makes Islam different? Is there any unique argument to support Islam which isn't used by other religions? I am looking for fairly biased answers, and am only interested in pro-Islam arguments and evidence.

[AbdAlRahman]

Hello , thank you for asking about islam .

Im not a pro on islam but i think you should see some of the predictions and scientific proof , coes you firstly need to know that the Qu'Ran and the books befour it came from God , so you need to beleave that the Qu'Ran was not written by any human without the help of God , and beleave that the Qu'Ran is from God , visit http://www.miraclesofthequran.com .

Im not asking you to beleave in the Qu'Ran and God becouse of the proof above , but to know that the Qu'Ran was from a messenger sent by God .

May God guide you.

[thipps]

hI,
I would suggest that you read the Quran and the Sunnah yourself. Do the research. Understand the message in its entirety and decide for yourself. We can try to help you along the way.
People are complex beings. What appeals to one, may not have the same appeal to another. One thing may catch the eye of one person but not of another. Some may require a life-time to be convinced but some may only need minutes.
And with Allaah lies all guidance.

[Turok76]

I may very well read the Quran, but I most likely will not do it anytime soon as the reason for this is I am currently reading and studying scriptures that belong to 2 other religions, and that takes a while. One is the Bible. The reason for this is because I am looking at their own claims of promotion of their religion, and I have very well heard their promotions as to why it is divine so I knew what to expect and concentrate on specifically when reading. The Quran may or may not satisfy my opinion of its divinity simply by reading it. I may be more knowledgable of it, but there will most likely be things which I miss and think nothing of which may amaze me if given further explanation. Web sites are fine if you have one, but sometimes they use people opinions rather than actual meaning. If all it takes is simply reading to convince somebody, then I have no choice but to assume that until I finally get to reading it. Then I will judge for myself afterwards in that case.

[AbdAlRahman]

You have to understand the bible and every book befour the bible is mentioned in the Qu'Ran and we are ordered to beleave that God sent others befour Mohhamed peace be upon him . so im glad your studying the bible and the other one , becouse after you read them then read the Qu'Ran you will see some difrence but youll hopfully see that the Qu'Ran confirmes the others , and look at this verse :


"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,
like unto thee,
and I will put my words in his mouth;
and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Deut.18:18.

ill make a topic about this verse , ill called it "no name" i hope you see it.

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by Turok76

If all it takes is simply reading to convince somebody, then I have no choice but to assume that until I finally get to reading it. Then I will judge for myself afterwards in that case.

That's probably a good approach with any idea or group of ideas.

[mansio]

Turok76

If you want to have opinions about the Quran, ask your question on the comparative religion forum. This Islam forum is not supposed to be polemical.

[Turok76]

Originally Posted by mansio

Turok76

If you want to have opinions about the Quran, ask your question on the comparative religion forum. This Islam forum is not supposed to be polemical.

My purpose isn't to argue against Islam, infact like I said I wanted biased answers, and I am curious as to how Muslims prove itself. If I wanted to hear arguments against Islam, then I will most definitly go to that forum, but that isn't what I am looking for.

[AbdAlRahman]

I think i told you 1 way ... God gave miracles and signs int he Qu'Ran for people and yet they dont beleave , so firstly you have to know or beleave that the Qu'Ran wasent written just like that by a human being without the help of God, so did you look at the siet i gave you?

[PluckyAli]

There are two ways to prove/disprove any religion.

1.If you can prove a particular religion(way of life),then all the other religions will be disproved.It's extremely hard to prove some religion because we have limited knowledge and have our own limitations.By prove i mean to prove things by scientific knowledge(only few things can be proved in real life)



2.By comparision of religions and choosing the best one which makes more sense than the others.This is the strategy i choose.

The proof of quran is in the quran itself.The quran has challenged people to find errors in it.If you find one logical error/contradiction in it,it will render the whole quran useless.I am not saying this from myself,it's in the quran.
Let's see some of these verses.

Say: If the whole of mankind and Jinn were together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they back up each other with help and support."

" or they may say, "He forged it" Say, "Bring ye then ten Suras forged, like unto it, and call (to your aid) whomsoever ye can, other than Allah! If ye speak the truth"

"And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers besides Allah, if what you say is true." quran 2:23




"The heaven, we have built it with power. Verily we are expanding it." 51:47

This is very interesting verse,cuz expansion of the universe is being criticized by some scientists.The moment they showed evidence universe is not expnading it will render it a book of deception.

Oh here is more about Big bang.


Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then we clove them asunder and we got every living thing out of the water. Will they then not believe?" 21:30

The moment they showed evidence(not proof) big bang did not take place,it will render quran a book of deception.

We (Allah ) will show them (the unbelievers) Our signs in the farthest regions, and within their own selves until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth." sura 41:53

I don't have a time,i believe these verses are enough evidence.My fav is "If this quran had been other than Allah,you would have found many errors".I forgot it's exact verse,pardon me.

p.Ali

[Friend]

Originally Posted by Turok76

I am not Muslim, or of any religion for that matter, and I am curious as to how Islam justifies itself to be the true religion of God? There are several religions out there and plenty of them give fairly good explanation as to why theirs is. What makes Islam different? Is there any unique argument to support Islam which isn't used by other religions? I am looking for fairly biased answers, and am only interested in pro-Islam arguments and evidence.

Hi

There are some constitutive reasons proved the divinity of Islam :
1) The Scientific Miracles in the Holy Quran: some recently discovered scientific facts mentioned in the Holy Quran, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago.

2) The Great Challenge to Produce One Chapter Like the Chapters of the Holy Quran: In the Quran, God challenged all human beings to produce a single chapter like the chapters of the Quran. Ever since the Quran was revealed, fourteen centuries ago, until this day, no one has been able to meet this challenge, even though the smallest chapter in the Quran (Chapter 108) is only ten words.

3) Biblical Prophecies on the Advent of Muhammad , the Prophet of Islam .

4) The Verses in the Quran That Mention Future Events Which Later Came to Pass: The Quran mentioned future events which later came to pass, for example, the victory of the Romans over the Persians.

5) Miracles Performed by the Prophet Muhammad : Many miracles were performed by the Prophet Muhammad . These miracles were witnessed by many people.

6) The Simple Life of Muhammad : This clearly indicates that Muhammad was not a false prophet who claimed prophethood to attain material gains, greatness, or power.

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There are many sites interpret the ideas which i mentioned above like this one:
http://www.islam-guide.com/f-preface.htm
http://www.islamicmedicine.org/nonmedical.htm

Thanks

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by PluckyAli

There are two ways to prove/disprove any religion.

I don't think there is any objective standard you can measure religions against - but absolutely none of them is able to sustain claims against current scientific models, because science and religion deal fundamentally with very different topics.

When an individual makes a choice, they can only make a choice based on their particular circumstances, experiences, and expectations of that particular time. There is no objective answer that can determine that choice for that individual, and stand up to issues of proving/disproving belief.

In fact, because so much in general religious doctrine fails to relate properly to current scientific thinking, it is much much easier to create a stronger argument based on disproof - though in doing so, misses the key fundamental that religious doctrine is trying to convey.

[mansio]

Thanks Brian for repeating my deleted post in which I was denouncing pseudo-science in holy books.

[AbdAlRahman]

some years aggo everyone said that the earth was flat or the moon is cheese lol , but not muslims [ 1400 yrs aggo ] and people in history thought that the earth was the centre of the universe , or that the sun was the onw moving not the earth , all that was from scientists , and the Qu'Ran put an X on top of every Theory so they claimed its false becouse it puts an X on ower noladge , so.....

[I, Brian]

Originally Posted by mansio

Thanks Brian for repeating my deleted post in which I was denouncing pseudo-science in holy books.

Not deleted - it was moved to the comparative board as it was deemed to be a little too critical for this board.