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10-13-2006, 12:12 AM
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Re: Calling all veggies
Namaste moseslmpg,
thank you for the post.
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OK, so just don't intentionally take a life? Are cockroaches sentient, because I have a debilitating phobia of them, and even though I don't technically kill them, someone usually kills them for me. Does that count as direct or indirect killing?
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generally speaking, Buddhism is concerned with intentional actions, thoughts and words since it is it only through intentional action that karma is created.
the insect thing is tough as they are, by and large, sentient beings. i, too, have some issues with certain sorts of insects and, to my chagrin, i find that i will remove them from my home or have them removed for me.
one thing to bear in mind with regards to Buddha Dharma, in this scenario, is the possibility of creating positive karma which mitigates the reaping of the fruit of dark karma.
it is one thing to hit an insect with your car windshield whlist driving and a whole different thing to go about swatting flies with a flyswatter... and the difference is one of intention.
metta,
~v
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10-13-2006, 12:37 AM
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What was the question?
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Re: Calling all veggies
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Originally Posted by Vajradhara
a cow can sustain a being without having to kill the cow, yogurt, milk, chesse, ghee and so forth..
metta,
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I will sustain my children by any means...I have no problem with that.
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10-14-2006, 09:16 PM
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Re: Calling all veggies
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Originally Posted by Vajradhara
Namaste moseslmpg,
thank you for the post.
generally speaking, Buddhism is concerned with intentional actions, thoughts and words since it is it only through intentional action that karma is created.
the insect thing is tough as they are, by and large, sentient beings. i, too, have some issues with certain sorts of insects and, to my chagrin, i find that i will remove them from my home or have them removed for me.
one thing to bear in mind with regards to Buddha Dharma, in this scenario, is the possibility of creating positive karma which mitigates the reaping of the fruit of dark karma.
it is one thing to hit an insect with your car windshield whlist driving and a whole different thing to go about swatting flies with a flyswatter... and the difference is one of intention.
metta,
~v
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Um,  question here, Vaj, but where do fleas, lice and mites fit into this? I mean, in most places I'm familiar with, one must kill fleas, lice and mites (as well as other pests.) How does Buddhist dharma deal with this?
Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
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10-16-2006, 07:07 AM
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Re: Calling all veggies
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Um,  question here, Vaj, but where do fleas, lice and mites fit into this? I mean, in most places I'm familiar with, one must kill fleas, lice and mites (as well as other pests.) How does Buddhist dharma deal with this?
Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
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Chalk drawn on the floor along the wall of the house I suspect. And for more than just karmic reasons. Crawling insects do not like to cross chalk "boundaries", and any animals in the house would not be subject to accidental poisoning. And chalk doesn't kill insects either. They just hate the stuff. (An elder Chinese man taught me that).
But I have a question: What about seafood? Eating it, I mean? Is that like no good too? I mean, I'd gladly give up beef and pork, if I could afford seafood...
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10-16-2006, 08:06 AM
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Re: Calling all veggies
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Chalk drawn on the floor along the wall of the house I suspect. And for more than just karmic reasons. Crawling insects do not like to cross chalk "boundaries", and any animals in the house would not be subject to accidental poisoning. And chalk doesn't kill insects either. They just hate the stuff. (An elder Chinese man taught me that).
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Um, Q, I don't think that would work for lice (especially head lice.) And, last I heard, most places don't want you if you have a case of head lice (since it's rather "contagious".)
Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
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10-16-2006, 07:17 PM
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Re: Calling all veggies
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Originally Posted by Quahom1
Chalk drawn on the floor along the wall of the house I suspect. And for more than just karmic reasons. Crawling insects do not like to cross chalk "boundaries", and any animals in the house would not be subject to accidental poisoning. And chalk doesn't kill insects either. They just hate the stuff. (An elder Chinese man taught me that).
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Have you tried that? Does it really work? I might have to build a house out of chalk...
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10-16-2006, 08:03 PM
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Re: Calling all veggies
One of my teachers, Ven. Tenzin Kacho, advised me to use cinnamon to discourage ants from entering the house. It works great and eveyone thinks I bake alot
Q, there is a type of vegetarian known as "pesco" that does indeed eat fish. personally, I still think fish and other sea creatures are sentient beings but there is no doubt that such a diet would make one quite healthy as opposed to eating red meat and the other white meat.
peace
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10-16-2006, 10:49 PM
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Re: Calling all veggies
The thing you have to worry about with fish is mercury. There's also ovo- and lacto-vegetarians, and those people who call themselves vegetarians and eat eggs, fish, and dairy products.
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10-17-2006, 12:33 AM
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Re: Calling all veggies
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Originally Posted by Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
Um, Q, I don't think that would work for lice (especially head lice.) And, last I heard, most places don't want you if you have a case of head lice (since it's rather "contagious".)
Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
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Mayonase kills head lice and conditions the hair...
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10-17-2006, 12:34 AM
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Re: Calling all veggies
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Have you tried that? Does it really work? I might have to build a house out of chalk...
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Yep, chalk works.
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10-17-2006, 12:37 AM
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Re: Calling all veggies
I really prefer Miracle Whip. Would that work d'ya think ?
flow.... 
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10-17-2006, 12:52 AM
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Re: Calling all veggies
Yep, but you have to keep crazy :kitty:s who like the smell/taste of mayo/whipped salad dressing away from your head during treatment (don't ask.  )
Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
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10-17-2006, 06:44 PM
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Re: Calling all veggies
My cat washed my hair the other day!!!! And I wasn't even wearing any dessert toppings
Snoopy.
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10-17-2006, 10:23 PM
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Re: Calling all veggies
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My cat washed my hair the other day!!!! And I wasn't even wearing any dessert toppings
Snoopy.
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Mine did the same thing!? First time I ever had a cat "groom" me. Have no idea what started it, didn't ask for it . But it didn't feel bad either. 
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10-18-2006, 02:05 PM
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Re: Calling all veggies
Well my hair was clean, dry and dessert topping free, so I took it to be a sign of afffection!
(Either that or he took pity on me for not being able to give myself an all over wash like cats can!)
Snoopy.
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