Burma - Page 5

flowperson · 10-05-2007, 07:59 PM

SG...That's a keeper !

flow....

Muslimwoman · 10-05-2007, 11:10 PM

That is the best cartoon I have ever seen - thanks Seattlegal

flowperson · 10-06-2007, 06:48 PM

Well, maybe something good is beginning to take place here....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7031171.stm

flow....

Muslimwoman · 10-07-2007, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by flowperson

Well, maybe something good is beginning to take place here....

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Global rallies to pressure Burma

flow....

Well sort of, there is still this (taken from your link):

But China and Russia remain opposed to sanctions, saying the situation in Burma is an internal affair that does not threaten international peace and security.

So it is okay if you kill monks and unarmed civilians as long as it doesn't threaten international peace or you are sitting on mountains of oil reserves.

Snoopy · 10-07-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlegal

good one, SG.

s.

InLove · 10-07-2007, 04:12 PM

Okay, I've been sitting on this because I know it just sounds crazy. But now, for some reason (probably because I am crazy), I just want to tell it. Ever since I first heard about the problems in Myanmar or Burma (what is the right name?), I have had dreams about it. It wasn't a big story then, just a brief mention, but there was just something about it that showed up in my "sleep" conciousness or maybe I should say "conscience". Just a vision of the monks all in red. What do you suppose is the reason for this? Just to say, "Deb, here is something meaningful to dwell on"? Maybe. But like others here have mentioned, I do wonder why it took so long for the major news agencies to say anything significant. Still not hearing that much about it here...I try and catch the BBC reports, as they seem to say little more. Hmmm....maybe no one here wants to talk much about it since we owe money to the oppressor in question? Did I just say that?

InPeace,
InLove

flowperson · 10-07-2007, 10:00 PM

Hi InLove:

The fact that it happened to you doesn't mean it's an out-of-the-ordinary thing. I'm pretty sure that other's here have had such visions concerning world events and not understanding quite why. I look at it as "something or someone" sending me messages for a purpose. And when I follow the path opened by the messages I sometimes find out new things about myself, and I'm sometimes led to doing something that may have benefits for others. Other "messages" I receive have no apparent consequences so I tend to let them go and forget them. Sometimes, years later, the theme returns in dream or "deja vu" experiences. The fact remains that in an interconnected-energy-based universe, the pain and suffering of others sometimes has tangible effects upon the lives of us, randomly.

Since yours was in color and was in synch with events on the other side of the world, that may signify a degree of more importance and meaning than other dreams. Then on the other hand, maybe your brain was simply replaying something that it saw on TV.

You have also been profoundly physically, emotionally, and mentally changed as a result of your distressing life experiences in the recent past. Don't lightly dismiss that fact. Your brain's reception capabilities have been altered. I have found that I was significantly changed in many ways after a near death experience in the early 80's. That has led me to do significant things and to also mightly suffer in connection with all of that sometimes.

Each person is so different, but that has been the outcome of significant dreaming in my life. You might also wish to look up "lucid dreaming" on the net. I believe that Dauer also started a thread on the subject a while ago, but it didn't go very far in my recollection. I know he's had these sorts of experiences, so that would give you another of us to talk with about what you're going through.

flow....

InLove · 10-08-2007, 09:58 AM

Hi flow

Thanks for your response and your helpful comments. I will look into the thread you mentioned. I seem to remember it--maybe I posted there, not sure.

Yes, I do realize that many, many people have dreams and even visions about world events. I'm not saying it is some special thing that happens with me. I wouldn't dream of (pardon pun

) using this thread to try and make it about me. I guess I only mentioned it in order to add my voice to the list of those who are concerned. My way of supporting the efforts of the monks. I figure most folks are used to my talk about dreams and such--kind of a way of life for me. I try to stay tuned in to my dreams and their significance. The fact that it was only a snippet from a short news flash that most likely prompted the dream was what caught my attention and told me that there was probably more importance to the situation than what the reports seem to address, especially initially.

Sorry for inadvertantly taking the thread off-track.

Back to the discussion at hand....

InPeace,
InLove

flowperson · 10-09-2007, 07:06 PM

MW...Once again your opinions have turned out to be quite prophetic. These people are all still only meeting and talking about meeting and talking, while a Nobel Peace Prize winner is kept in her own personal hell and twelve year long imprisonment...sheesh !

flow....

http://my.earthlink.net/article/int?...009-1873288210

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7035049.stm

Snoopy · 10-09-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by InLove

Okay, I've been sitting on this because I know it just sounds crazy. But now, for some reason (probably because I am crazy), I just want to tell it. Ever since I first heard about the problems in Myanmar or Burma (what is the right name?), I have had dreams about it. It wasn't a big story then, just a brief mention, but there was just something about it that showed up in my "sleep" conciousness or maybe I should say "conscience". Just a vision of the monks all in red. What do you suppose is the reason for this?
InPeace,
InLove

InLove, your response to the terrible events and oppression in Burma has reminded me of an entry in a book’s glossary that I’ve just read (The Eye Never Sleeps):

Kanzeon.
Literally, “the one who hears the sounds and cries of the world”; Kanzeon is one of the principal Bodhisattvas in the Zen Buddhist tradition, personifying great compassion. While usually represented in the female form, Kanzeon traditionally manifested in whatever form was needed in order to answer the needs of beings. In Genpo Sensei’s words, Kanzeon stand for the compassion, the love, the mercy within each one of us.

s.

flowperson · 10-09-2007, 08:55 PM

Hi Snoopy...Yes this is becoming tedious, for once again we see eye to eye, so to speak. The ancient Hebrew Priests labeled this phenomenon "the shekinah" or the act of placing oneself into the attitude of the female in order to recieve messages and visions from the hidden G-d. Different culture...similar concept.

flow....

Snoopy · 10-09-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flowperson

tedious

flow....

yo flow.

I've put that book you mentioned into my Wish List but there's a bit of a back log going on there at the mo'. (so much for my wondering what to read...)

Plus I'm a slow reader.....

s.

InLove · 10-10-2007, 06:12 PM

Thanks, Snoopy--another book for my order list for when I get that gift card (that's a hint, J.H.

Tell the kids, eh?)

InPeace,
InLove

Pathless · 10-10-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopy

InLove, your response to the terrible events and oppression in Burma has reminded me of an entry in a book’s glossary that I’ve just read (The Eye Never Sleeps):

Kanzeon.
Literally, “the one who hears the sounds and cries of the world”; Kanzeon is one of the principal Bodhisattvas in the Zen Buddhist tradition, personifying great compassion. While usually represented in the female form, Kanzeon traditionally manifested in whatever form was needed in order to answer the needs of beings. In Genpo Sensei’s words, Kanzeon stand for the compassion, the love, the mercy within each one of us.

s.

Kanzeon is also called Kwan Yin, no?