Body of God

[mee]

Originally Posted by Still thinking

Thank you!!! While I claim to be Christian, I never once claimed that one particular church or branch of Christianity had it all right.

believe it or not ,there is only one branch of true christianity. God has always used just one channel , the early christian congregation was it . he didnt use all religions he always used just one . Before the christian congregation was formed he used the nation of israel but they did not want to go the way Jehovah planned (JESUS) yes individuals from the natural Jews did take on board what Jesus said , but for the most part the religious leaders rejected Jesus .


there is always one channel that Jesus feeds in a spiritual way ,and it is always FAITHFUL ONES MATTHEW 24;45-47


looking to the right channel will lead to EVERLASTING LIFE john 17;3


This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.

[mee]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

Mods, i object strongly to this.. please do something.

so are you saying that you think HELLFIRE is not idiotic.?

[Still thinking]

Whatever. I can't talk to you anymore, Mee. Consider me yet another person driven away by the Watchtower.


And btw, I think Blazn was objecting to your rudeness, not just what you were saying.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Still thinking

Thank you!!! I find it interesting that Mee is even on this site,

WHY i like to make known about the kingdom to people from all different religions , just as Jesus did .

and many people who belong to different religions never get to hear the truth about JW thats because they are told by there religious leaders to not talk to JW or even told lies about us yes many have been blinded by those who dont want the truth to be made known .

[mee]

Originally Posted by Still thinking

Whatever. I can't talk to you anymore, Mee. Consider me yet another person driven away by the Watchtower.


And btw, I think Blazn was objecting to your rudeness, not just what you were saying.

i dont think it is rudeness to make know that the God of the bible is not into HELLFIRE .


in fact i would rather put God in a good light, than to tell lies about the God of the bible .

how any so called christian could say that the God of the bible BURNS PEOPLE IN A LITRAL HELLFIRE is beyond me . and it is lies indeed .




the watchtower mag is a mag that points to the truth of the bible. but many do not like the truth of the bible and that is their choice .

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by mee

i dont think it is rudeness to make know that the God of the bible is not into HELLFIRE .


in fact i would rather put God in a good light, than to tell lies about the God of the bible .

how any so called christian could say that the God of the bible BURNS PEOPLE IN A LITRAL HELLFIRE is beyond me . and it is lies indeed .




the watchtower mag is a mag that points to the truth of the bible. but many do not like the truth of the bible and that is their choice .

It is rudeness, because it is your opinion, not based on fact. It is because you have a habit of putting down anyone who does not believe as you do. That is plain rudeness. What you've also done is made sure that anyone here who get's fed up with JW doctrine will not give another JW the time of day, should they come to the door step.

A preconceived notion has been developed because of your stubborn refusal to dialogue as opposed to regurgitate doctrine.

[Gatekeeper]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

It is rudeness, because it is your opinion, not based on fact. It is because you have a habit of putting down anyone who does not believe as you do. That is plain rudeness. What you've also done is made sure that anyone here who get's fed up with JW doctrine will not give another JW the time of day, should they come to the door step.

A preconceived notion has been developed because of your stubborn refusal to dialogue as opposed to regurgitate doctrine.

I had a JW visit me yesterday, ahhh! He's coming back in a week or two, I think? I'll listen to him, and be a good host, so mee hasn't fed me up, yet. I do agree that it is rude to degrade others for what they believe, or to call one's beliefs idiotic. We all have our views, and they are our own to bear; it doesn't help matters when they are being made fun of, so.

I do disagree with the hell doctrine, but that is just me... ....

Love,

GK

[path_of_one]

mee, no, I do not think that Jesus would want Christians telling other Christians that they are idiotic for believing in the trinity.

I don't expect that this will make any difference to how you see things, but that is all right. You can continue to believe what you will; I have no attachment to changing your mind. But I did feel called to speak mine.

Paul preached that even if we feel we are right in our particular practices, we should not cause our brother to stumble by confusing him, deterring him from his walk of faith by meddling in the details.

I think there is a difference between expressing a diversity of ideas with the intent of us as the Body of Christ lifting one another up and loving one another as we all try to find the truth... and calling one another idiots in the name of spreading the Good News.

One of the biggest reasons non-Christians tell me they don't "buy" Christianity is this back-biting and judging and know-it-all attitude that Christians have towards each other. So many Christians have left the church or become solitary practitioners for the same reason. I avoided churches for years until I found on CR Christians that were loving toward me and reminded me that I had more in common with most other Christians than I had thought. I continued to follow Christ in that time, but I was so tired of feeling attacked by people who should have been kind to me. If we are following Christ, shouldn't we then be loving toward each other, encouraging, uplifting? Shouldn't we focus on the practical ethics of being Christ to others and serving one another rather than arguing about doctrinal issues and playing the "who-is-outside-the-fold" game?

Yes, Jesus was quite pointed about some things in the Gospels. He corrected people all the time. But then, He had all the answers and you do not. Just as I do not. That is why it is important for Christians to above all love one another, encourage each other in our faith, and make sure that our practices do not cause our brothers and sisters to stumble. I never want to drive people away from Christ because of my attitude.

You say there is only one channel. Yes, there is. CHRIST is it. Not you, not the Watchtower, not the JW church, not the early Christian congregation (which was diverse, too, by the way- if you would study up on early church history)... NO single church has ever been or will ever be the "one channel" to God. The real church is the Body of Christ, who is all Christians regardless of affiliation- those who have died to self and found everlasting life in Jesus Christ. It is all those for whom Christ sacrificed Himself. No one can know who these people are but God. No man-made institution (which all churches are) writes The Book of Life, and no church is the way to God.

CHRIST is our way, our truth, and our light. All of us who follow Him are following that one way.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Gatekeeper

I had a JW visit me yesterday, ahhh! He's coming back in a week or two, I think? I'll listen to him, and be a good host, so mee hasn't fed me up, yet. I do agree that it is rude to degrade others for what they believe, or to call one's beliefs idiotic.

I also think it is rude to go knocking on people's doors and expecting them to want to listen.... fortunatley my house is a "no go" zone for JW's lol...

Trust me... He'll be back... Again, and again, and again..... You'll even get to meet alllll his friends, lucky you...

[Still thinking]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

mee, no, I do not think that Jesus would want Christians telling other Christians that they are idiotic for believing in the trinity.

I don't expect that this will make any difference to how you see things, but that is all right. You can continue to believe what you will; I have no attachment to changing your mind. But I did feel called to speak mine.

Paul preached that even if we feel we are right in our particular practices, we should not cause our brother to stumble by confusing him, deterring him from his walk of faith by meddling in the details.

I think there is a difference between expressing a diversity of ideas with the intent of us as the Body of Christ lifting one another up and loving one another as we all try to find the truth... and calling one another idiots in the name of spreading the Good News.

One of the biggest reasons non-Christians tell me they don't "buy" Christianity is this back-biting and judging and know-it-all attitude that Christians have towards each other. So many Christians have left the church or become solitary practitioners for the same reason. I avoided churches for years until I found on CR Christians that were loving toward me and reminded me that I had more in common with most other Christians than I had thought. I continued to follow Christ in that time, but I was so tired of feeling attacked by people who should have been kind to me. If we are following Christ, shouldn't we then be loving toward each other, encouraging, uplifting? Shouldn't we focus on the practical ethics of being Christ to others and serving one another rather than arguing about doctrinal issues and playing the "who-is-outside-the-fold" game?

Yes, Jesus was quite pointed about some things in the Gospels. He corrected people all the time. But then, He had all the answers and you do not. Just as I do not. That is why it is important for Christians to above all love one another, encourage each other in our faith, and make sure that our practices do not cause our brothers and sisters to stumble. I never want to drive people away from Christ because of my attitude.

You say there is only one channel. Yes, there is. CHRIST is it. Not you, not the Watchtower, not the JW church, not the early Christian congregation (which was diverse, too, by the way- if you would study up on early church history)... NO single church has ever been or will ever be the "one channel" to God. The real church is the Body of Christ, who is all Christians regardless of affiliation- those who have died to self and found everlasting life in Jesus Christ. It is all those for whom Christ sacrificed Himself. No one can know who these people are but God. No man-made institution (which all churches are) writes The Book of Life, and no church is the way to God.

CHRIST is our way, our truth, and our light. All of us who follow Him are following that one way.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! I totally agree with everything you said.

[Gatekeeper]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

I also think it is rude to go knocking on people's doors and expecting them to want to listen.... fortunatley my house is a "no go" zone for JW's lol...

Trust me... He'll be back... Again, and again, and again..... You'll even get to meet alllll his friends, lucky you...

I'll make it clear that I am not a JW, nor am I interested in becoming one. I will listen, and be a good host, tho. We might even have a fruitful conversation. I'll offer my views, while he can offer his own. It should be fun, lol!

Love,

James

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Gatekeeper

I'll make it clear that I am not a JW, nor am I interested in becoming one. I will listen, and be a good host, tho. We might even have a fruitful conversation. I'll offer my views, while he can offer his own. It should be fun, lol!

Love,

James

Good host eh? Let's hope he is a good guest... Knowing when he has out stayed his welcome

[Gatekeeper]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Good host eh? Let's hope he is a good guest... Knowing when he has out stayed his welcome

I guess we'll see what happens, then. Ahhhh, you are such a cynic, 17th! Is that the word I'm looking for? You got that dictionary handy?

Love,

James

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Gatekeeper

I guess we'll see what happens, then. Ahhhh, you are such a cynic, 17th! Is that the word I'm looking for? You got that dictionary handy?

Love,

James

It's more of a; been there, done that.... Kinda "thing" you know?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

It is rudeness, because it is your opinion, not based on fact. It is because you have a habit of putting down anyone who does not believe as you do. That is plain rudeness. What you've also done is made sure that anyone here who get's fed up with JW doctrine will not give another JW the time of day, should they come to the door step.

A preconceived notion has been developed because of your stubborn refusal to dialogue as opposed to regurgitate doctrine.

if any people on this site reading the verses about a paradise earth and that God is going to put things right on the earth all from the bible that i make known , is going to put people off the bible then they are not going to believe the bible any way . but i know for a fact that before i was a witness , if i had seen those verses in the bible it would have made me look a bit more into the promises of the bible . because most people are not shown the truth about the bible so they are in darkness .

if the truth of the bible puts people of then that is there loss.

i dont put people down i just make known the truth


i think it is a case of people not wanting the truth to be made known .