awake!

[LeoSalinas22]

hello everyone,

here i am again, wanting to know what you guys think and i want your comments about these few scriptures because they are driving me insane. anyways, i keep asking myself, if God had truly rested on the seventh day then why does it seem like the Holy Spirit is going everywhere and He just doesn't sit still. it seems like He is still moving around alot, sort of like this:
Genesis 1:2 ...And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
He hasn't rested from what i am reading in the Bible. new species of animals are still appearing on this planet, people were and still are prophecying yesterday and today. we as man, still seem incomplete because we are still killing each other, lying to each other, etc. hardly qualities for ones who actually bear the image of the Father! for it is written:
Psalms 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.
so what does that mean? that we still aren't awake? that we actually still don't bear His Image? that we still aren't in His Likeness? could the beginning of Genisis be a prophecy? for it is written:
Psalms 95:11 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.
does that mean we aren't in His resting-place yet? didn't He rest already in the seventh day? if He did, why haven't we entered His rest yet? could it be that days actually aren't days but in fact much longer? for it is written:
Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
bear with me guys, please, if i seem like i am boasting let me know. if i cross the line by all means, prove me wrong, because that is the only way i am to learn from my mistakes. well, hope to garner some responses soon. hope i don't confuse any of you, which i doubt because you guys are so intelligient that it actually intimidates me and makes me doubt about what i actually think sometimes. well, i have rambled enough.
God bless you all.

[BlaznFattyz]

god rested from creation on the 7th day,
but god does not rest in his salvation.
when we see god as he truly is,
our eyes will be opened,
we will be changed.

[Nick the Pilot]

Leo,

I have a decidedly non-Christian interpretation of the "God rested" phrase. However, I will not post it here, as this is a Christian thread, and I do not post non-Christian ideas in a Christian thread (out of respect). Perhaps we can start another thread in the Comparative Religions section.

I can see how these things are driving you crazy -- they drove me crazy for years. I have finally been able to get a lot of ideas into my belief system without any conflict whatsoever. I hope you can eventually do the same.

[LeoSalinas22]

Originally Posted by Nick the Pilot

Leo,

I have a decidedly non-Christian interpretation of the "God rested" phrase. However, I will not post it here, as this is a Christian thread, and I do not post non-Christian ideas in a Christian thread (out of respect). Perhaps we can start another thread in the Comparative Religions section.

I can see how these things are driving you crazy -- they drove me crazy for years. I have finally been able to get a lot of ideas into my belief system without any conflict whatsoever. I hope you can eventually do the same.

hi nick, i would love to hear what your point of view is, by all means when you get the chance, start a thread on it. thanks and God bless you.

[LeoSalinas22]

hi blazn,

god rested from creation on the 7th day,
but god does not rest in his salvation.

you are absolutely correct, blazn, He hasn't rested yet at all because He is still making us in His image. how can we be in His image or in His likeness if we are still lying, cheating, killing, destroying, etc. you know what i mean?

when we see god as he truly is,
our eyes will be opened,
we will be changed.

amen and amen. glory and honor to our God and Father. God bless you.

[Faithfulservant]

Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

hello everyone,

here i am again, wanting to know what you guys think and i want your comments about these few scriptures because they are driving me insane. anyways, i keep asking myself, if God had truly rested on the seventh day then why does it seem like the Holy Spirit is going everywhere and He just doesn't sit still. it seems like He is still moving around alot, sort of like this:
Genesis 1:2 ...And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
He hasn't rested from what i am reading in the Bible. new species of animals are still appearing on this planet, people were and still are prophecying yesterday and today. we as man, still seem incomplete because we are still killing each other, lying to each other, etc. hardly qualities for ones who actually bear the image of the Father! for it is written:
Psalms 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.
so what does that mean? that we still aren't awake? that we actually still don't bear His Image? that we still aren't in His Likeness? could the beginning of Genisis be a prophecy? for it is written:
Psalms 95:11 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.
does that mean we aren't in His resting-place yet? didn't He rest already in the seventh day? if He did, why haven't we entered His rest yet? could it be that days actually aren't days but in fact much longer? for it is written:
Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
bear with me guys, please, if i seem like i am boasting let me know. if i cross the line by all means, prove me wrong, because that is the only way i am to learn from my mistakes. well, hope to garner some responses soon. hope i don't confuse any of you, which i doubt because you guys are so intelligient that it actually intimidates me and makes me doubt about what i actually think sometimes. well, i have rambled enough.
God bless you all.

It helps me to look for Jesus when doing a study. These are my thoughts.

Pslm 37:7 Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for Him; Do not fret because of him who prospers in his way, Because of the man who brings wicked schemes to pass

Mttw 11:28-29 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath and its in Him we find our rest. So Jesus is the fulfillment of the Sabbath.
Hebrews 3 and 4 also touch on this subject.

Hebrews 4:3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: "So I swore in My wrath, 'They shall not enter My rest,' " although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

The Spirit of God is for sure moving across this earth. You can almost pinpoint where He is working by looking at history.

As far as being the image of God.. I take that to be the qualities of God in which we share. Logical, Creative, Intellectual Relational having Free will.. Having 3 parts Body Mind and Spirit That we can be aware of Him and be able to fellowship with Him.

A thousand years is as but a day.. God is outside of time.. in fact He created time when He created this universe.. so time is something that does not affect Him He knows all things at all times and all possible alternate realities. I believe there are dimensions that we arent even aware of that He has complete control over. Like.. I believe when someone chooses Him their reality changes from that moment on God has complete control over everything that happens that is why we can rest in the Lord because He is in control. I think He manipulates every aspect of our lives trying to get us to that point that we say I need you Lord then its up to us to choose. Do a study on John 6:15-21 When they willingly chose to receive Him they were immediately at their destination.. think about that.. when we willingly choose to receive Him we are immediately at our destination..the kingdom of God.. thats why I believe our reality changes when we choose.

Thanks for the thought provoking post Leo

[Nick the Pilot]

Leo, you said,

"...i would love to hear what your point of view is...."

Here is the thread.

link --> "God rested": Another Idea

[Thomas]

Hi Leo —

Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

... i keep asking myself, if God had truly rested on the seventh day then why does it seem like the Holy Spirit is going everywhere and He just doesn't sit still. it seems like He is still moving around alot...

As others have said, God cannot be subject to change, as He is eternal and not conditioned by space or time ... so no 'movement' nor 'rest', 'work' nor 'play' etc ... as God is Absolute, and Infinite ... But as God is eternal, in our understanding of God, there must be an element of Omega, if there is an alpha.

So in Creation, the first day is the 'beginning', and the seventh day is the 'end' ... but as God is Alpha and Omega, the 'end' is figured in the beginning.

Put another way ... we are called to God, and our movement is towards our perfection (and as you point out, we still have a long way to go), and when we arrive at perfection, we will be in Him, and this is 'beatitude' or 'rest'.

So it's not so much that God rested, rather that God let us know that the journey has an end, and the end in in Him, with Him, and then all travail will cease, and we shall find true rest, true peace ...

So it's not so much the Spirit moves, but the Sipirit moves us.

... speed the day!

Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

Genesis 1:2 ...And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Creation doesn't happen all at once — if it did, we'd be finished the moment we began!

Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

Psalms 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.
so what does that mean? that we still aren't awake?

No we're not — the light shineth in the darkness, but the darkness comprehendeth it not. We are in the 'sleep' of ignorance, or not knowing ... and we will not see all, until we arrive at our destination.

Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

does that mean we aren't in His resting-place yet? didn't He rest already in the seventh day? if He did, why haven't we entered His rest yet? could it be that days actually aren't days but in fact much longer?

Well that's a topic for debate ... but one view is that each 'day' is not a 24-hour period, but rather a stage of development — so seven steps — you get into deep metaphysics here ... personally I really enjoy it, but it's not everyone' cup of tea.

Again, if you think of 'rest' as 'peace' - then the world is not yet at peace with itself, nor with God. When God made the world, He saw that it was 'good', when God made man, He saw that it was 'very good' — and so He was at peace about what He had caused to be ... He was happy — again, God is not subject to peace, happiness, etc. but how else are we to understand?

Thomas