Atlantis

[Phoenix72]

Originally Posted by Nogodnomasters

You two guys are both smoking rope. There was no Atlantis in the Atlantic or Mu in the Pacific...
...The legend for Atlantis is purely and solely based on the destruction of Thera. Years of embellishment to the story has altered it slighty. Plato simply wrote down what he was told about Atlantis. He had no first hand knowledge, nor did those who gave him the story. Why would one imagine a story to remain constant over a 1000 years is beyond me. It is just a matter of separating fact from fiction. I do not believe every word of Plato writing about events passed on by hear-say than I do any other ancient writer.

Obviously like the rest of you I'm not able to say here nor there in relation to very old tales, but I do believe tales can last alot more than 1000 years, sure the heros may change names and the goal may be called something different but the plot remains the same, over and over again.

An interesting point that hasn't come up yet if you do believe in crustal displacement is that antarctica does fit several of the Plato's criteria for atlantis, it has its mountain and rainforrest fossils have been discovered there with a large basin that exhisted. Funny thing is (as Im sure some of you know) the Piri Reis map (1513) which is stated as being copied from an older source shows the exact geographical layout of antarctica minus the ice and we've only just worked it out in the last few decades.

Also during the beginning of the 1900's Col James Churchward theorised the location of lemuria (he called it Mu) from excavations he'd done all over the pacific, the antartica thing may be sketchy (though interesting) but Col James found a common symbol structure and carving theme across that entire massive area, he even included photo's! He is smoking a little rope(?) as he believes the whole lot sank into the ocean due to 'submerged gases' but hey Im a little forgiving as he makes some good points, no one ever mentions any carvings except easter island, and theres lots.

Plus as Graham Hancock will tell you in 'Underworld' there are megalithic citys being discovered all the time, off the caribean, West India, Japan, mediteranian. Certainly give credance to a flood epic anyway...

...hey theres a story that hasn't changed much in millenia!

P72

[pohaikawahine]

hmmm .... there was that reference to Churchward (I posted something of a response in the Age of Aquarius tread) about the symbols he saw in the south pacific.....as for the physical location of the lost continents (both Atlantis and Lemuria .... or Ta Rua, as we would call it in Hawaii-nei) in my view they exist both in the physical and are also metaphors for another path of knowledge that exists within us) .... but back to the physical .... I will speak to Lemuria (aka Ta Rua) which our chants say did exist .... the edges of that lost continent extend out to the islands of Pohnpei and parts of Japan .... in Japan there have been discoveries of an underwater ancient city and I can tell you first hand that I have personally seen what remains of the ancient cultural structures on the island of Pohnpei at a place called Nan Madol .... the legends connected with how Nan Madol was built and who lived there before compare with the knowledge in the hawaiian chant .... the ability of built the ancient structures of stone (tall walls and structures of basalt columns) and the story of each structure tell of an ancient people that possessed abilities that we each have but have forgotten how to access .... I also read an article about a structure in the State of Florida called the Coral Castle which was linked to the same type of energy needed and used to build Nan Madol (I ran across it in a cross-search) and I would be interested in anyone that has seen this structure and what they think of it? While I cannot speak directly to Atlantis, I can tell you that the stories of the lost continent that Churchward referred to as Lemuria existed and exists in chants and legends of people of the south pacific long before the arrival of any outsiders. OUr names are not the same, but the location and place is. In Hawaii-nei (ancient hawaii) the people that came were called the alaneo .... some believe that they were from Ta Rua (the lost continent) .... and I am not smoking rope .... lol, pohaikawahine p.s. however, I might be climbing rope (the rope is an important metaphor for knowledge related to Ta Rua) .....