Atlantis

[I, Brian]

Indeed - but all too often there's a predilection for literal interpretation of ancient stories, and Atlantis seems like one of those stories.

Postmaster, the above criteria you list don't seem very fitting for the island - is is in the Atlantic and bigger than Asia??

[Postmaster]

In the ancient times the Med was considered Atlantic and Asia was much smaller to the Greeks then what it is today

Also the Atlantean Empire boarded part of 3 continents, Europe, Asia and Africa. With Cyprus or Acropolis hill being the capital, must have been massive. All depends how you look at it. It was the birth place of the civilised man, we are talking over 12'000 years ago. The will fill in a lot of historical problems if proven correct.

[Postmaster]

Why would Plato say it boarded 3 continents? Where else in the world boarders 3 continents other then Cyprus? Atlantis gave birth to the Greeks, Egyptians, Jews, Phoenicians and Mesopotamians. Regardless some of the oldest civilisations on earth are found in Cyprus dating over 7'000 years ago i.e Chirokitia, truly makes sense. Just to think they even had the highest mountain named Olympus just as in the republic of Cyprus today. I don't think anywhere in the Atlantic ocean joins 3 continents, had a mountain top called Olympus and wedged war with the Athenians. Atlantis has more connections with the Greeks and East then anything else.

[pohaikawahine]

hmmmm.... a couple of interesting questions .... "it borders three continents" .... and "it is an island" ....


in another post that I wrote about the human brain and its connection in these types of stories, someone commented that it didn't seem possible that the ancients knew as much about human anatomy and therefore how could they have been making reference to the brain ..... my believe is that we use only a small portion of our brains today and that it is possible our full potential lies in using all three hemispheres simultaneously .... if we use more of our brain power we will be able to open the illusive "hall of records" (this is where it takes three to open the hall) and we will know much more than we know now .... so if this has any truth, the ancients would have had greater knowledge than we have today even with all our scientific knowledge (which is helpful in us understanding where we may be going) .... so with this thought in mind let me return to Atlantis .... the hemispheres of the brain are the "continents "(and there are three) and the energy centers in the body are sometimes referred to as "islands" .... there is one in the center of the brain .... and our head is referred to as the "mountain, the mound" .... so it is still possible that the inner meaning of the Atlantis story is what we seek and not its outer location .... in my belief, it is the left hemisphere that is "Atlantis" and the right hemisphere is "Mu or Lemuria or Ta Rua" because the right is connected with the moon, spirituality and female energy .... the left is connected with the sun, logic, and male energy .... the continent to be lost was "Ta Rua" it was, in story, the place of the people of spirit (in Hawaiian mythology this is the place that the twelve "alaneo" came from, they were twelve mystical healers that came to teach the people and four stayed behind in the form of rocks that can be found near Waikiki beach.... "alaneo" can translate as the "path of silence" .... Atlantis would have been associated more with the concept of warriors and scientific advancement and this is the left hemisphere .... remember these are only metaphors and the descriptions are only symbols for a more ancient path of wisdom .... so the two continents sank and are lost and we are still searching for them .... just like the twelve tribes .... it is said that when they reunite we will live in peace and harmony again, the golden age .... remember the twelve "alaneo", I believe they are the same symbol as the twelve tribes .... it is connected with the 12 pairs of cranial nerves in the brain that must all work together to operate the whole internal system that move the sprialling energy up and down the spinal column to reunite the three hemispheres of the brain which in turn will open the gates allowing visions and revelations .... so some will laugh at this perspective, but as far as I know it is the key to seeing how we are all linked in our various religions, cultures, and minds .... "moment by moment, hour by hour, day by day .... this is how we live our lives, and this is how we change the world. With each breath, each thought, each action" (author unknown) .... he hawai'i au, pohaikawahine (p.s. my hawaiian name means "a circle of women" and is connected with a circle of twelve women from the distant past in Hawai'i)

[Postmaster]

hmmmm.... a couple of interesting questions .... "it borders three continents" .... and "it is an island" ...

Before it sank the land mass of Atlantis was connected to Europe, Asia and Africa. The capital (Acropolis hill) is in the Cypriot and Syrian waters there are more great Atlatean cites towards Cyprus. All Cyprus is, just the mountinous area of Atlantis that remained due to the hight.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Postmaster

Before it sank the land mass of Atlantis was connected to Europe, Asia and Africa. The capital (Acropolis hill) is in the Cypriot and Syrian waters there are more great Atlatean cites towards Cyprus. All Cyprus is, just the mountinous area of Atlantis that remained due to the hight.

That is physically impossible Post. Geological examinations have proven this to be a fallacy. Even if it happened 40,000 years ago, the earth would show the scars of a sunken land mass.

Second, you are calling Atlantis an island? yes? The way you describe it, it is a penninsula.

And I don't understand your obsession with Cyprus. The earth did not begin with Cyprus.

That's like me saying that the world began with Ireland, or Detroit, Michigan. (no, mass production of automobiles began in Detroit, and preserving "western civilization's writings began in Ireland).

The civilization of Cyprus is less than 3000 years old. It claims a 9000 year history, but there is nothing to back it up, until the Greeks arrived in 1050 BC. Nothing is written before. And even if Cyprus had a civilization 9000 years old...that is 3000 years short of the Atlantian theory.

Provide evidence for your statements.

v/r

Q

[Postmaster]

Here you go, hope this helps, start from the bottom. I said civilised man came out of Cyprus!! This is the Garden of Eden. It won't be long untill your all watching the documentary anyway.

[Postmaster]

This is going ot sound paranoid but I'm posting again cause I have a 6*6 post count. But as regards to this

The civilization of Cyprus is less than 3000 years old. It claims a 9000 year history, but there is nothing to back it up, until the Greeks arrived in 1050 BC.

I'm afraid you’re wrong. Anyway what Cyprus currently is, is just the mountainous area of Atlantis so you would find less civilisation there. Like described by Plato it all went in the sea. Which you can clearly see pictures of man made structures on the sea bed, who created them? Maybe some Mediterranean Dolphins? Looks like human hands to me and if they are, it means it was above water. Every year me and my family celebrate a great flood in Cyprus, going back from the time of Noah, Cypriots have always considered themselves as ancestry of Noah.

[InLove]

Hi, Peace to all here--

Postmaster, before your last post, I was developing some things from inside my head to say--

LOL--I am still going to say them!

But before I do, I just want to tell you, that even though I do not understand a whole lot of what you say, I still am glad that you are here. You bring a perspective that I must check out.

That said, back to what I said about the people who are looking for Atlantis in the Caribbean. It is no joke. I realize I am apparently involved in a forum full of people who do not watch television (there are refreshing exceptions)--but I wasn't just talking out my other end when I posted what I posted.

Millions of dollars (or some other form of money) are, every day, being poured into the research of Atlantis and other "lost" places. Several of you here tell me that you do watch PBS (Public Broadcasting System) here in the U.S.? I feel certain that there must be networks that are comparable to it in the U.K. and maybe other places, like Asia?

I am, in no wise, saying that Atlantis or the continent(s) in question in the Pacific never existed, and I think it would be totally awesome if someone could prove their existence.

So, I am thinking that for the time being, it would be really great to float around the Caribbean, or the Mediterranian (sp?) on someone else's money, and wind up on T.V. while some gifted writer ghost writes my diary.

Do I sound cynical? LOL--don't answer that--it is rhetorical. I am not a cynic at heart.

Anyone care to comment? (Before you say it, yes, if you insist, I will go look up the blasted documentary and provide you with at least the names of these explorers, if not a link.)

(This is one of those posts that I know will involve some kind of apology, eventually--ever been there?)

I am smiling through it all....

InPeace,
InLove

[Awaiting_the_fifth]

There's no bublic broadcasting system in the UK, we only have 5 channels (unless you pay through the nose for sattelite or cable) and they're all run by big corporations. Like the totally inbiased, independent, objective and neutral BBC for example. (can you feel the sarcasm? )

And we have to buy TV licenses. Oooh, it makes me so mad!!!


Anyway, back on topic..........

[InLove]

Wow, I didn't know that, Awaiting_the_Fifth...now I understand a bit more.

And, so--I do think that I was a bit rude on my last post. My apologies for that.

Also, Postmaster? I should not have said that I don't understand a lot of what you say. I really do understand you much of the time. And when I don't, it is not your fault--it is mine. Or no one's at all.

Every now and then, I get a little frustrated, and it shows up in a post. I know I am not alone in this, but still, it is something I do not like to do. I'm getting better about it , but I still slip up from time to time.

Anyway, I will see if I can find that info I was talking about, and maybe then I can get back here with something interesting to say.

Love and Peace to All Here--

InLove

[Postmaster]

Hey, no need to apologies. When this Atlantis theory is proven correct, then it will all be clearer to everyone. I know I come across bias.

[Postmaster]

The subject of Atlantis is not an easy one; casual reading will not prepare you for it. Many of the world’s greatest minds have been obsessed by it, and the people responsible for relaying the legend are none other than Plato, Solon (the father of democracy), and the high priests of ancient Egypt who were known as the best keepers of ancient history. These people were no fools, and the ancient world did not relay to this legend to us as myth but as real history. If you study the topic long enough you will understand that this was actually considered to be sacred text, and the legend was revered around the ancient world. Think of the last three thousand years as the latest chapter of human history, with Moses, Jesus and Mohammed and the effect they left on the “holy land.” If you go back one chapter to an earlier time and study life in that era, you will come to understand that Atlantis or Eden or Hesperides, whatever you want to call it, was their “holy land,” and was treated as such. Imagine if our holy land was wiped out due to natural disasters and people living ten thousand years from now rejected that it ever existed because they couldn’t find the actual landmass. Well, when they look at its effect on our history and how it played such a central role in so many different ways, then they would be able to infer that it must have been a real place. Atlantis can be viewed in the same fashion, but we will find its physical remains to prove the point. - Sarmast

[pohaikawahine]

I was on several on-line forums that discussed the various theories about the lost continent of Atlantis (also known as Poseidonis) for several years and I have many books on the theories including two that have not been published yet (shared by the authors). With very few exceptions most people involved in the dialogue believed that the continent would be located soon (that was in 2001). One forum would not allow anyone that didn't believe that the physical continent existed beneath the ocean .... I was the exception to be allowed into the forum for discussion .... this was one on the opening of the 'hall of records' connected with both the mystery of the great pyramid as well as the location of atlantis. I do believe in the saying "as above, so below" which goes back to the Emerald Tablets of Hermes or Toth "I speak not fiction, but what is certain and most true. Which is below is like that which is above, and that which is above is like that which is below for performing the miracle of one thing. And as all things are produced from one, by the mediation of one, so all things are produced from this one thing by adaptation." So while the physical location of a lost continent may exist, I believe that its purpose is only to lead us to the location of the internal lost continent. Interesting to me that those that speak of the lost continent of Atlantis (or Poseidonis) seldom speak of the lost continent of the Mu (or Lemuria or Ta Rua). One is reportedly in the Atlantic and the other in the Pacific. I've already shared my perspective on this so I don't need to repeat it. Personally I hope it will be found to end the outward search and being the inner search. he hawai'i au, pohaikawahine

[pohaikawahine]

I mentioned the Emerald Tablets but forgot to say that Atlantis is mentioned in them ....


"List ye, O man, to this mystery:
Long in the past before ye were man-born,
I dwelled in Ancient Atlantis.
There in the Temple,
I drank of the Wisdom,
poured as a fountain of Light
from the Dweller.
Give the key to ascend to the
Presence of Light in the Great world.
Stood I before the Holy One
enthroned in the flower of fire.
Veiled was he by the lightnings of darkness,
else my Soul by the Glory have been shattered."

I understand these to be symbols of ancient knowledge, even the "flower of fire" is understood in Hawaiian mythology when one can hear the root sound of the words.

It also speaks to the "tree of life" which is part of the basis of the Kaballah. It also speaks of the key to Shamballa "the place where my Brothers live in the darkness: Darkness but filled with Light of the Sun, o Darkness of Earth, but Light of the Spirit, guides for ye when my day is done" and speaks of the twelve in "open thou the way of the Twelve and the One, so I may pass to the realm of wisdom. Open, I command, by the Secret of Secrets Edom-El-Ahim-Sabbert-Zur Adom." and it ends "Thus finish I my writings. Keys let them be to those who come after. But only to those who seek my wisdom, for only for these am I the Key and the Way."

All are metaphors and symbols. Some believe that The Emerald Tablets were writen by Thoth, an Atlantean priest-king, who founded a colony in ancient Egypt. For myself I do not know .... but I do know that the words ring true with the path of many other traditions. he hawai'i au, pohaikawahine