Athiest will be born as animals who serve the humanity without any devotion to God

[dattaswami1]

Athiest will be born as animals who serve the humanity without any devotion to God

Lakshman: But how there are different cadres in the human beings? because
All should have same level of human birth as all of them have worshipped
The very same human incarnation to get the human rebirth

Swami: Understand the concept what I have told carefully because what I said is
That one becomes that form which he liked the most, liking leads to service.
If one liked the human form, he may serve all the human beings as an atheist,
There is no element of God in his social service and he is also born as
The human being only but he will be in the lowest cadre of the human beings.
The person who served all the human beings as the various forms of God
Will be born in a better cadre in this humanity only present on this earth.
Some other person serves all the human beings as the representative models of
God only and not directly as God is born in a still better cadre in this humanity.
All these three types of people are born as human beings on this earth only.
And they can never cross the earth because all these three types of people could
Not conquer their egoism and jealousy, the lowest cadre have very high egoism
And jealousy and therefore they are called as demons, the second better cadre
Has lesser egoism and jealousy whereas the third still better cadre has least
Egoism and jealousy and they are the middle layer called as human beings.

The highest cadre in the humanity consists of people who have completely
Conquered their jealousy and egoism and therefore recognised the Lord
Who came in a human body called as human incarnation on this earth.
These highest devotees are called as angels and will cross the earth
To get the upper worlds according to the intensity present in their services.
The highest devotee with highest intensity in the services shall go to Brahmaloka.
For the lowest cadre atheists, there is no trace of possibility to cross this earth.





These atheists are interested in the service of humanity only and no element of God
Exists in these people, they get the human rebirth for some time only because
The Lord tries again and again to transform the atheists also into devotees.
When there is no trace of hope of transformation, these atheists shall be thrown
Into the permanent hell here as well as there in the form of animals because
Animals are serving the humanity without any sense of devotion to God.
It is highly rare that a human being can recognise the human incarnation,
Because of the general jealousy and egoism causing repulsion of likes.

Hanuman took the birth of monkey and worshipped the human incarnation.
But Arjuna as a human being could not realise Krishna completely.
The only human being that completely recognised the human incarnation,
The only exception is Radha who is made Queen of highest Goloka.
Worship of inert statues with a sense of representative model worship
Is welcome for the beginners because every monkey is not Hanuman.
Lord Shiva came in the form of one monkey only called as Hanuman.
Since Hanuman is not available, one can worship a monkey as a model
Representing Hanuman but he should not consider that monkey as Hanuman.
Human birth really means the human being who has the rarest opportunity
To serve the human incarnation and reach His highest eternal abode.









Otherwise other human beings who cannot cross the earth can be treated as
Human beings externally but they are birds and animals internally.
With reference to such highest rarest human birth only, it is said
That there is no human rebirth as we can observe in other religions.
There is only one opportunity to meet the human incarnation and understand
That human incarnation as the Lord, Jambavan did not recognise Rama
But he recognised the Lord in human form when he fought with Krishna,
Since he could not recognise Rama he invited Him for a fight and his desire
Was fulfilled by Krishna, then only he recognised Krishna as Lord.
Once you recognised the human incarnation as Lord and still neglect
No further chance will be given to you in future to have human rebirth.

[Eudaimonist]

Originally Posted by dattaswami1

If one liked the human form, he may serve all the human beings as an atheist,
There is no element of God in his social service and he is also born as
The human being only but he will be in the lowest cadre of the human beings...

These atheists are interested in the service of humanity only and no element of God
Exists in these people, they get the human rebirth for some time only because
The Lord tries again and again to transform the atheists also into devotees.
When there is no trace of hope of transformation, these atheists shall be thrown
Into the permanent hell here as well as there in the form of animals because
Animals are serving the humanity without any sense of devotion to God

It's good to know that the stigmatizing and dehumanizing of atheists is not something limited to Christians. Prejudice can exist just about anywhere. Thank you for enlightening me.


eudaimonia,

Mark

[sam1008]

They say 'Atheists do not believe in God and God does not believe in atheists.'

How can an embodiment of Divinity say that they do not believe in Divinity?

Self-confidence is a akin to faith in God.

Its just a difference of words

One person is a theist.
One person is atheist.

One person says God is now here.
One person says God is no where.

How can we say God does not exist as God is undefinable and how can we say we don't believe in something we can't define?

The word God exists therefore the meaning of the word God exists as there can be no words without meaning.

Om shanti!

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by sam1008

They say 'Atheists do not believe in God and God does not believe in atheists.'

How can an embodiment of Divinity say that they do not believe in Divinity?

Self-confidence is a akin to faith in God.

Its just a difference of words

One person is a theist.
One person is atheist.

One person says God is now here.
One person says God is no where.

How can we say God does not exist as God is undefinable and how can we say we don't believe in something we can't define?

The word God exists therefore the meaning of the word God exists as there can be no words without meaning.

Om shanti!

Just curious, have you ever been on the writing staff at Fox News?

[flowperson]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Just curious, have you ever been on the writing staff at Fox News?

Yeah...and he's done so well that Rupert is personally moving him over to the Wall Street Journal to help clarify the upcoming economic downturn for its loyal readers.

flow....

[greymare]

I hope I come back as a giraffe. I like giraffes.

[mee]

how about a sheep ,they are willing to be led by Jesus . and they also help christs brothers.


sheep go on to everlasting life .

[17th Angel]

I'll come back as a freak of nature then... To strange to live, to rare to die... One of god's prototypes Some kind of man eating animal would be good, then I can kind of help the planet in some small minor way and remove parts of the virus known as humanity!

[sam1008]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Just curious, have you ever been on the writing staff at Fox News?

Namaste Gays, sorry my writng was a bit disjointed - I was just free forming you know?

I wouldn't even buy one of murdochs newspapers let alone write for one.

[greymare]

Sheep taste good but are untimately stupid. Do you know that if you are trying to pen them up and one or two get out you are better off leting the entire flock out, they will regroup and then be penned up easy. No room for individuals in the flock. Its Baaaaaaaaaarabic.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by greymare

Sheep taste good but are untimately stupid.

Reminds me of people then.

s.

[flowperson]

Perhaps the flock needs a small pink piglet to talk some sense into them then.

flow....

[sam1008]

Originally Posted by greymare

Sheep taste good but are untimately stupid. Do you know that if you are trying to pen them up and one or two get out you are better off leting the entire flock out, they will regroup and then be penned up easy. No room for individuals in the flock. Its Baaaaaaaaaarabic.

Sheep are certainly stupid compared to humans that is why as a human you should know better than to eat animals. Barbarian.

[Paladin]

That'll do pig

[greymare]

ugh. (beats chest) me like meat. tastes good. ugh. LOL.


pigs taste quite yummy as well. mmmmm now Im hungry.