Arent atheists at risk?

[Mainecross]

Originally Posted by StarshipEnterprise

... But if there is a God, he certainly wouldn't punish them for not "beleiving in him" (as someone said earlier) He would be much more concerned about if the person was compassionate enough in their lifetime. Also, if he made "bad" people face eternal torment, he would be an immoral, and imperfect god (therefore not God). Since that would not be justice, but something more like revenge. The way I see it, justice is something that solves a problem.

so no, I don't think being an atheist puts you at risk.

But if there is indeed God, you, being less than God, certainly would not be able to tell Him what is immoral; or imperfect; or justice. The key words here are "the way I see it" which will not win out over the way He sees it. In this case you would only not be at risk if your views coincided. The chances are pretty good that they would not coincide entirely if at all.

[Jaiket]

Originally Posted by Mainecross

But if there is indeed God, you, being less than God, certainly would not be able to tell Him what is immoral...

Hmm, maybe this god is a Star Trek fan who nips onto comparitive religion for a little healthy debate...

[jaxree]

So let me get this straight, this all-loving god is actually so petty and mean spirited that he would condemn someone to an eternity of pain just because this person thoughtfully and authentically came to the conclusion that there is no god? It's not like there's a lot of real "evidence."

I'm not sure this is a god I would want to believe in. If I'm going to believe in a supreme being, I prefer he be big enough to respect someone's sincere attempt to make sense of the universe, and not count it against him if he didn't get it right.

And what about Buddhists? Aren't they technically atheists? They live a moral life, but, oops, you picked wrong. Sorry. Off to hell with you.

The odds of there being an anthropomorphic supreme being who carries with him the same petty jealousy and self righteousness as humans seems pretty remote to me. I'll take my chances with rationally approaching the universe.

[hammer]

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Originally Posted by hammer
Risk of what??? That something that doesn't exist is not going to allow us to go to a place that doesn't exist when we don't exist?

How do ye know God doesn't exist?.How do ye know that place doesnot exist?.Have you examined all of the universe?.How do ye know ye are not going to exist after your death?

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I'm not too worried.
Your at high priority risk.


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ALL you theists out there, that is just my opinion - I don't mean to offend anyone.
We take no offense,if ye think that was offensive,ye could be bit more straight and offensive with us.We don't care.

hey PlukyAli...

I'm no more at risk than you. I have as much faith that there isn't a god as theists have that there is. I don't believe that anyone can be certain either way....we can only think we are. I guess even for us Atheists, it comes down to faith. I HAVE FAITH that I'm not going to exist after my death, that I'm not going somewhere after my death and that there isn't a god, just as implicitly as you HAVE FAITH that you're going to exist after death, somwhere and that there IS a god. Er if you get my drift? Truth is only relative to whoever posesses it. If you're going to tell me that I'm at risk because I don't believe, then you're proclaiming that you're right and I'm wrong. I don't believe that anyone is qualified to make that judgement for others.

Take care! Peace, harmony...etc
H.

[Awaiting_the_fifth]

Would it not be enough for God, whoever that may be, to simply live a good life. Is he so arrogant that he craves worship?

[StarshipEnterprise]

Originally Posted by Mainecross

But if there is indeed God, you, being less than God, certainly would not be able to tell Him what is immoral; or imperfect; or justice. The key words here are "the way I see it" which will not win out over the way He sees it. In this case you would only not be at risk if your views coincided. The chances are pretty good that they would not coincide entirely if at all.

I wasn't trying to tell God anything, I was rationalizing about what the nature of God would be like.

[suanni]

Why would an atheist be at risk if they live a good life?

It is the living that counts not the belief.
Surely the believer who disrespects life would be more at risk from judgement

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by suanni

Why would an atheist be at risk if they live a good life?

It is the living that counts not the belief.
Surely the believer who disrespects life would be more at risk from judgement

Hi Suanni,

Good to see you here again.

lunamoth

[suanni]

Thankyou Lunamoth, its good to be back

[Freedom of Opinion]

I totally agree with you Hammer.

[quote=PluckyAli]How do ye know God doesn't exist?.How do ye know that place does not exist?.Have you examined all of the universe?.How do ye know ye are not going to exist after your death?

How do you know that a "God" does exist? Have you seen him? Everyone bases their belief's on their own kind of faith. An atheist simply has faith that there is no god. How does that put us more at risk then you? What if we are the only ones that are right? Does that put you at risk?


PS: i have no idea if this post worked right as I'm new!

[nomanshake]

Is a person who believes in higher power or let's say a God but no religion whatsoever, would he be an atheist too ?

[suanni]

Originally Posted by nomanshake

Is a person who believes in higher power or let's say a God but no religion whatsoever, would he be an atheist too ?

No, they would be an agnostic, or deist....
Do you mean an organised religion, one with set rules? For there are many pagans and Druids who are solitary, they believe in a higher power.

[nomanshake]

Agnostic I heard is a person who has doubts about the existence of God.

Nope I did not mean a belief in any set of rules,it's just that they believe in life after death in a spiritual manner, and that they fear God only when they are going against humanity.
TO me "Deist" sounds okay.

Thankyou for ur reply suanni.